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BLUE LIGHTS IN BATHROOMS

Discussion in 'Heroin' started by Jai50, Jun 26, 2018.

  1. Jai50

    Jai50 Senior Contributor

    I just saw on the news that some businesses are starting to put blue lights in there bathrooms to detour heroin users from shooting up in the bathroom. They say it will be harder to find a vain. I just think I would be in there bathroom longer getting pist off cuz I'm having a problem finding a vane.
    Do you think this is going to work?
    I also think recovering addicts heroin opiate users should be more involved finding more affective ways than this to help addiction.

    My option this is not.

    Just a thought
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  2. deanokat

    deanokat DrugAbuse.com Community Organizer Community Listener

    I read about this last year. I have no idea if it will work or not. But I do think it shows how bad things have become.
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  3. True concern

    True concern Community Champion

    I agree this is a pathetic poor excuse for what they may claim as helping addicts,i understand that as a business owner you are concerned about people shooting dope in your bathroom and ONLY as a deterrent i agree this could work however in no way should this be looked at as helping addicts.The thing about heroin in the vain it's an instant high however if you mis the vain it will absorb into your muscle tissue and you will still get high,now shot it with coke and heroin(speed ball) it could cause many heroin related overdoses because most people that do this shot large amounts of heroin to the point it will slow your heart rate to the point of death but when you add cocaine it increases your heart rate very dangerous but it will infact if through a vain keep your heart pumping and you will survive (most time's) however of course this is no fail safe guarantee but if you mis a speed ball in the vain the heroin absorbs but the cocaine does not potentially increasing heroin overdose.Now when shotting Meth it has to go through the vain period or it will literally burn the flesh right out of your body and you will not get high but you will have massive abscess all over leaving open wounds which usually become infectious,cocaine will also burn your flesh and cause abscess which will lead to infections.More needs to be done to help educate addicts and society and i often wonder what happened to humanity?Why don't we care for our fellow man anymore?This is a phrase often used in government and military but it applies in ever day neighborhood's and society as a whole and it makes perfect sense and i wish the world started every morning saying this out loud considering the current disgusting political climate.("TOGETHER WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL")I pray people stop choosing side's as Left-Right it's bullshit we are all Americans and should care what's just for each and everyone of us not just one side or the other.I'm a white man and the best friend i ever had ever is a black man,the best family friend's to me and my wife are illegal aliens and my sister who is adopted is 100%Hispanic.We are all human's and i pray everyone opens their eye's soon as sees how society is turning on itself.Now sober i watch the nation "Self Destruct"and my heart hurts over this.Im sorry i got way off track on this response but i hate watching people hate one another simply for not agreeing 100% of the time.I fear that others are forgetting how important it is to take part in the conversation with respect even though we can't agree on everything because we are all different but that's what i love about Humanity
  4. Jai50

    Jai50 Senior Contributor

    My thoughts exactly ridiculous.
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  5. Joshstillclean

    Joshstillclean Community Champion

    I just read this whole thing thinking when I first saw it it could in no way be serious.
    It is...wow.
    I wish I could upload a picture of my wrist. What @True concern said about missing a vein is true when speedballing.
    I have a large scar that used to look grotesquely sunken because I missed in a closet where there was dim light.
    I always shot in my upper arm where they were fatter and easier to hit but it was cold and I was wearing long sleeves. And I was in a rush so i didnt want to take the time to roll up my sleeves.
    Please don't use a needle. And if there really are blue lights (I have seen these in strip clubs...not regular places where good wholesome people go) then people just don't shoot there.

    I pray for forgiveness for the way I have lived. I'm so ashamed sometimes...anyway...
    This is one of just another of the hundreds (I think literally hundreds) of stupid ideas people with zero drug experience have thinking it will help.
    It will not help!
    Business owners you might end up with a corpse being rolled out of your bathroom rather than a high person walking out...
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  6. True concern

    True concern Community Champion

    You are not alone in feeling shame from time to time my friend however we can't let that set in and control us....i know probably sounds odd coming from me considering what I have been going through but I am saying fuc* the shame I'm going to take necessary steps to change it and I thank you for relentlessly communicating with me as I need someone I can really relate to and between you and everyone else who has been by my side I am going to start MAT next week
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  7. Joshstillclean

    Joshstillclean Community Champion

    Me and you got each others back from day one.
    Its easy to communicate with someone who listens. And you have set me back on the right path of thinking on a few occasions. Friends do that. And friends can take constructive criticism without taking offense. That's one reason I connect with you and the others I keep up with.
    We know what we say we say out of concern and don't get all up in arms.
    I'm embarrassed that there are females on here that are my friends and I completely disagree with the exploitation of the female body. Yet I have given these places my money.
    However to share my story honestly involves telling the truth. And these places are where a lot of the bad things I did happened at.
    They are the devils den.
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  8. Jai50

    Jai50 Senior Contributor

    Lol when I wrote this last yr I thought it was ridiculous. Still do!! I was a long time IV user and no Blue light wouldn't deterred me from shooting up in a bathroom or Ally in the city in my car at night etc etc etc. I also wouldn't miss I now I would get high if I did but not the high I wanted.
    Who thinks this **** up!!! How much $$ and people sat in a room to make something so unhelpful to an addict happen!!!! It's so frustrating. I here on the news everyday how bad the opiate crisis is and what can be done about it. This is what they come up with?? Also stop selling needles unless u have a script for them?? Wtf.

    I been looking into becoming a peer support specialist. There process for that only sets you up to fail or just give up. I've been trying to get my foot in the door for 2 years now.
    The past few years I been clean it has opened my eyes to how screwed up things are. The lack of REAL help for addicts. Blue lights no clean needles that's a unsafe punishment not help.
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  9. Dominica

    Dominica Author, Writer, Recovery Advocate Community Listener

    i had no idea about the blue lights... but it doesn't sound like it would deter people. i think it's great you want to be a peer specialist @Jai50 keep trying!
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  10. Joshstillclean

    Joshstillclean Community Champion

    Hmm. Why does this only set you up for failure?
    I ask because I'm an introverted person usually, unless I get mad then it seems I have to let the while world know what's what. Something I really am working on. But I heard about being a peer specialist the last time I was in rehab and I also had been thinking about looking into it. I know its not really a way for me to support myself and a kid but I don't want to do it for the money.
    And being introverted is what attracted me to the idea I was told I could pick where and whom I wanted to go and speak (or listen) and I thought I could be good at that. But if it only set you up for failure I don't need to have something else to get aggravated about.
    And I agree also who does think this **** up!
    Haha!
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  11. deanokat

    deanokat DrugAbuse.com Community Organizer Community Listener

    Josh... I've found that a lot of addiction-related things seem too far-fetched to be true; but they usually are. :(
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  12. deanokat

    deanokat DrugAbuse.com Community Organizer Community Listener

    @Jai50... Never give up on your quest to become a peer specialist. I think it's wonderful that you want to do that!
  13. True concern

    True concern Community Champion

    Very simply the blue lights make it impossible to SEE the vein so imagine the misses and sores that happen because of them,in my opinion this is borderline demented
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  14. Jai50

    Jai50 Senior Contributor

    My frustration is in the process and how to get your licensing to be a peer support specialist/ recovery coach. don't know what state you're in but in Detroit they make it very difficult. There really isn't a process.
    You joshstillclean would make an excellent peer support specialist because you are an introvert an introvert's like to listen they're thinkers that's what makes us so helpful to others.
    I am doing peer support at this time on my own unfortunately I have two children that I need to support. This is the career I want to move into. A career that will fill my soul.
    Bottom line- Blue lights in the bathrooms not being able to get needles without a prescription has health risks and will have no effect on helping someone get clean.
    Maybe next time these people that want blue lights in bathrooms prescriptions for needles should have a peer support specialist or recovery coach in the room maybe they get something helpfu accomplished
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  15. Joshstillclean

    Joshstillclean Community Champion

    I'm in Atlanta. I was confused because somebody here told me there really isn't a process so I'm wondering ok...well younger it somehow? Do you just pay for a licence or take a test or something?
  16. Joshstillclean

    Joshstillclean Community Champion

    And heroin is taking ATL by storm right now...its horrible