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Discussion in 'Share Your Story Here' started by rEEzytheKiD, Jan 22, 2016.

  1. rEEzytheKiD

    rEEzytheKiD Active Contributor

    I'm sorry if I'm posting this in the wrong place but it's on my mind and I'd like to share in hopes to get some feedback. Today I found myself thinking about the time I've wasted while drinking and smoking cigarettes. These are moments I can never get back. I started thinking to myself "why would things like this even exist"? Instead of looking at my own will power and the products themselves, I thought more about the providers of these habit forming poisons. It's almost like they want you to drop everything you're doing and rely only on their product. I found that the same goes for anything that can cause a person to break routine and give in to the weaknesses that most of us have. Porn, smoking, drinking and drugs are all manufactured to keep us weak.
    I'm not saying that everybody who works in these industries is a bad person, but it just seems so sinister. It's scientific that these things are addictive and hurt us yet they are packaged to look fun and enjoyable. I'm not trying to pass the blame as far as my addictions and my actions, but I think it's okay for me to be angry at the powers that be. I'm just a bit angry today, at myself mostly for falling for the tricks and the lies, but also at our fellow humans who strive on our pain and our sickness.

    Thanks for reading
    Sorry again if it's in the wrong place.
  2. deanokat

    deanokat Community Organizer Community Listener

    @rEEzytheKiD... I hear ya, my friend. And I totally agree. I often think to myself what would happen if alcoholic beverages and cigarettes didn't exist. Can you imagine how much healthier people would be? And how many lives would be saved? Unfortunately, I think the reason products like these continue to exist in today's society is simple: It's all about the money made on them. The money the big corporations make and the money government makes on taxes from the products. You can bet your life that if nobody made money off the stuff, the businesses producing it would close up shop immediately. *sigh*
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  3. queend17

    queend17 Active Contributor

    I have no words to say on how right you are, I've too many of my family member addicted to stuff like that, oh how I wish there was some way to completely stop them from using products like that, but in the end we can't live in a fairytail... But we can close...
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  4. loverman99

    loverman99 Member

    We can't battle the existence of these products. However, we are kind of wise people who don't let themselves be fooled by the advertisements and other cool stories. To drink or to smoke is everyone's free choice, as we're living in a free country. I can't stand in their way. However, I personally can't stand watching people spend tons of money on cigarettes or booze.
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  5. ReadmeByAmy

    ReadmeByAmy Community Champion

    You are absolutely right! Toxic substances in the presence of alcoholic beverages and cigarettes still exist because there are still companies who are manufacturing this products. Like what it had been said it is for the money why they are still continuing their business despite the fact that they knew that this are harmful to one's health.
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  6. Coolkidhere

    Coolkidhere Community Champion

    I think temptations in life exist to test our strength. Imagine how easy our lives would be without these temptations around us. But that's just not how life works, unfortunately. We are constantly bombarded with these temptations and if we aren't strong enough we might give in and become addicted. Too bad for our health, good for their business.:(

    So yeah, it's all in the mind and our willpower to avoid these temptations. But if these companies are at least given difficulties as well, like higher tax and overpriced products, then maybe resisting the temptation may be easier for us. Alas, that's not what's happening in the world today.
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  7. rEEzytheKiD

    rEEzytheKiD Active Contributor

    Here in Philly they raised the price of smokes by $2.00. Immediately people were saying they'd quit because screw that right? They're spinning it as a tax to help our schools to make people think they're helping the cause but we've lost more schools last year. It takes a super human amount of will power to get past those lies because the enemy has been playing this game long before we've been around. as far as it being easy to live without the temptations. I don't think it's too hard to imagine a world where things are easy. I think the routine of things being difficult has just been apart of how we live so long that it just seems normal that we continue on that way.
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  8. kassie1234

    kassie1234 Community Champion

    Sadly I have to agree that it's a revenue thing - a lot of governments make a big old chunk of change on the taxes charged on cigarettes and alcohol...and I guess money talks for a lot of people. It's disappointing that the prime goal is money for the reason they are still sold, but I don't see it changing in my lifetime or my child's lifetime either.
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  9. anorexorcist

    anorexorcist Community Champion

    I agree with you, it seems like it's an "easy" way for the system to keep us controlled... But at the end of the day is a business and as ugly that it sounds that's how things work, but the thing here is that we're humans and somehow were able to decide if we want to consume or not, those products and publicly are just there.
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  10. gracer

    gracer Community Champion

    I get what you mean @rEEzytheKiD. The use of addictive substances and actions seem to be glamorized more and more nowadays that it seems temptation is in every corner we turn to. In our are, the government has implemented a yearly increase in what they call a "sin tax" but just like what you said, some people would initially react that they would quit because of the expensiveness of their vices but as they get used to the increased prices, they eventually end up continuing their addiction despite the price.

    It really boils down to having full control of oneself and possessing the strong will power to resist all the temptations around. I guess no matter how we want these things to disappear from the market and from our eyes but as long as there's revenue from these things, they will still exist for a long period of time. So it's really up to us to instill ourselves with the right amount of discipline to be able to make it through the daily dose of addiction persuasion we encounter.
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  11. serenity

    serenity Community Champion

    It's all about the profit, that's why they keep selling those things to us and they advertise them in an appealing way. They aren't concerned at all about our health, so we must not fall for their commercials.
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  12. Juanpeace

    Juanpeace Active Contributor

    These products cigarettes and alcoholic beverages and liquor were invented by our ancestors. Tobacco products even marijuana and alcoholic drinks were used in ancient times. Man's intellect advance and so are his moral standards. people started to label everything- this is good this is bad but one thing is certain you have your free will to decide on everything. To know what is right and wrong and be responsible for your decision.
  13. rEEzytheKiD

    rEEzytheKiD Active Contributor

    I see what you're saying but I'm sure there wasn't a multi billion dollar industry based on those things back in those ancient times.
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  14. djdrug

    djdrug Community Champion

    Well, there are certainly very powerful forces at work when it comes to alcohol and cigarettes. I saw the John Oliver special on Cigs as well, I mean these companies can take on governments. Anyways, I would say that pharma companies know that they shouldn't withhold certain drugs or charge crazy amounts of money for certain kinds of life saving drugs, but they do. If you can't afford it, you just can't. They don't care.

    I guess that's just the way companies work. They have no heart.
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  15. kgord

    kgord Community Champion

    Yes, it is sad that people pay money to kill themselves...however, moderation in all things is key, and even alcohol and smoking (talking cigars) can have their place. However, that is one of the perils of living in a capitalistic society...people get greedy at the expense of others,,and it is not right...but unless some serious regulation happens it is going to continue.
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  16. Winterybella

    Winterybella Community Champion

    I think it's fine to be angry. Everything you shared is enough to make you angry at one point or another. Beyond that though is the fact that you recognised even if late in the game that it really is just gimmicks that some fall for. It's gimmicks and the mighty dollar.

    You won't stay angry. That too shall pass and you will remain focus and allow yourself to be distracted.
    Here anywhere is the right place to share what's on your mind.
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2016
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  17. dyanmarie25

    dyanmarie25 Community Champion

    I agree with you about that, but sadly, I don't think there's a way for us to prohibit the production of these substances. Just like what everyone has already said here, it's all about the profit. It's already in our hands whether we would fall to these kinds of advertisements and temptations or not.
  18. xTinx

    xTinx Community Champion

    Well you certainly are in the right place and your thoughts are more than welcome. As much as it is sad that companies continue to manufacture products harmful to human well-being, this reality tests our resilience and ability to resist temptations. The least we can do is work on our values in addition to focusing on the essential things that make like worth living and prioritizing the people we love.
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  19. Tremmie

    Tremmie Community Champion

    Hi there! I totally get you, OP. It is very sinister if you think about it. My fiance is a smoker, has been one for a bit over 12 years, which really scares me, and I often wonder what it would be like if those stupid cigarettes didn't exists. Those things are pure poison.... what pleasure can you get from inhaling that foul smelling smoke? I don't even think he enjoys it, it's more like a very nasty habit he can't kick.
  20. zaerine

    zaerine Community Champion

    Right that how they advertise those things can make a person fall on it. That is why those products should not be commercialized since it can be also seen by kids who might have conditioned their minds that it will be just okay to use those products.