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DMT: Dimethyltryptamine

Discussion in 'Other Substances' started by Sparkster, Feb 16, 2015.

  1. Sparkster

    Sparkster Community Champion

    Has anyone ever heard of this drug? It's a controversial one to say the least! Many people experimenting with it (including by consuming it) are university researchers and professors with PhD's. I do not know if DMT would be considered a 'smart' drug, but research shows it is present in just about all forms of life on Earth and is directly related to consciousness. Some researchers also believe it is the chemical responsible for out-of-body experiences and maybe even alien abduction cases! People who have used it claim that it can cause you to leave your physical senses behind and actually leave your body so that all senses become one (i.e. your perception is no longer limited by the features - eyes, ears, nose, mouth, etc - of the physical shell which is your body) and allows you to observe a greater reality. Some users claim to have been blasted out into the universe after taking DMT whereby they allegedly experienced "universal consciousness".
  2. bsthebenster

    bsthebenster Community Champion

    DMT isn't classified as a smart drug, no. It is arguably the most intense psychedelic known to man and it's no wonder why those of a higher intellect are experimenting with it. From my experience and from research I've done on the subject, it seems DMT has virtually no recreational value but is used to explore the psyche.
  3. Sparkster

    Sparkster Community Champion

    I've seen a few documentaries about it and read few articles on it but never really did a great deal of research into it. I've never really read up on smart drugs either for some reason, I don't know why. From what I gather, DMT has shown no harmful effects either. As a believer in universal consciousness and that the universe is within the mind, it does sound like DMT is used to explore the psyche. Thanks for the reply.
  4. bsthebenster

    bsthebenster Community Champion

    Well to be fair, I don't think there's any substantial evidence to show that the majority of hallucinogens have any effects on the body and mind. I'm sure this will be the next drug the anti-drug people run to the ground.
  5. missbishi

    missbishi Community Champion

    It's pretty similar to LSD and was very popular inthe late sixties - round about the time of the hippy movement. I've never actually met anyone who has tried it though, it seems to be quite rare here in the UK.
  6. Rob93FL

    Rob93FL Senior Contributor

    N,N-DMT isn't anything like LSD aside from the fact that they're both psychedelics. They are two completely different classes of psychedelics (tryptamine vs ergotamine). The effects are very different.
  7. Charli

    Charli Community Champion

    I'm very curious about it as I heard people in tribes from earlier times have been using it under expert supervision of their shamans and it sounds like it helps a lot with giving people perspective. It's why I'm choosing to believe that it should be more considered to be introduced to modern society but unfortunately people have been trained for decades to be apprehensive about these types of things.
  8. Rob93FL

    Rob93FL Senior Contributor

    The tribes drink a brew called ayahuasca. Ayahuasca, while it contains N,N-DMT, provides a much different experience than just vaporizing the DMT.

    If you were to eat DMT by itself, it would be destroyed by the enzyme monoamine oxidase (MAO) in your stomach before it could take effect. To counteract this, people make a drink that contains both DMT and a monoamine oxidase inhibitor (MAOI). The MAOI inhibits the MAO in your stomach, allowing the DMT to be absorbed in your digestive tract. This provides for a much longer and (usually) smoother experience than a 10 minute vaporized DMT trip.
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2015
  9. bsthebenster

    bsthebenster Community Champion

    As far as I know, it has, in fact, been introduced to modern society. I've bumped into two DMT dealers throughout my younger years. I think the reason we don't see much of it is because, since it's so easy to procure yourself, there isn't much point in buying it, hence, not a lot of DMT dealers.
  10. bsthebenster

    bsthebenster Community Champion

    One should be careful of this however as the dose is harder to measure accurately. Personally, I can't imagine going the better part of a day tripping on DMT.
  11. Rob93FL

    Rob93FL Senior Contributor

    In addition to that, a lot of websites are starting to ban the sale of mimosa hostilis root bark, which is what the DMT is extracted from. Because the MHRB is becoming harder to find, so is N,N-DMT. It is still fairly easy to find other types of DMT, though.
  12. Sparkster

    Sparkster Community Champion

    Well, this is all certainly fascinating information. I didn't realize that this stuff was around back in the sixties, I thought it was a more modern discovery. What I really find fascinating about DMT (although I've never tried it and never would) is how it relates to mind and consciousness, which is really my area of fascination. DMT is produced in the pineal gland and it's direct relation to consciousness has led many experiencers and researchers to conclude that DMT may be the key to the afterlife, or at least what people who have temporarily died and then come back to life have experienced as the afterlife (there is a surge of DMT just before death).
  13. bsthebenster

    bsthebenster Community Champion

    I don't mean to start a religious debate, but if DMT is produced by the brain, wouldn't the DMT cease to exist once the brain dies? I can see how near death experiences may be affected by DMT, but I can't see it playing any sort of roll in a supposed afterlife.
  14. bsthebenster

    bsthebenster Community Champion

    It's too bad really. It's a completely safe and non-toxic chemical when extracted properly. Who knows what you're getting when you buy any sort of smokable, white crystals off of the street.
  15. Rob93FL

    Rob93FL Senior Contributor

    Most of what people claim to "know" about N,N-DMT hasn't actually been proven yet. Dr. Rick Strassman, a psychopharmacologist, wrote a book called DMT: The Spirit Molecule which documented his 5-year, 60 patient DMT research at the University of New Mexico's School of Medicine. While a lot of what he wrote relates to what you wrote in your post, he admitted that it was purely conjecture. The problem is that people, namely Joe Rogan, completely missed that part and spread it around as fact.
  16. drc52

    drc52 Active Contributor

    This is one of those drugs that has very limited side-effects and a low potential for abuse, this might not be the right place. Although from what I understand all psychedelic drugs can trigger schizophrenia and psychosis in those who already have it/ are genetically vulnerable.
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  17. cmleasure

    cmleasure Active Contributor

    I actually have seen a lot of abuse with the drug. Many people think they are connecting to the universal beings and being taught all this knowledge and wisdom, or they think that if they blast off one more time they will find out the secrets to the universe. Usually it ends up in the beings that they encounter telling them they need to stop/are no longer welcome.