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Discussion in 'Tobacco / Nicotine' started by AAngelo, Jun 16, 2015.

  1. AAngelo

    AAngelo Senior Contributor

    I no longer smoke as much as I did before. But whenever I get stressed or when I'm with friends, I smoke a few sticks. It's nowhere close to the 2 packs/day I smoked before. But when I caught up with a few of my college buddies, they were into e-cigs. They said it was not harmful and they still get to enjoy the effects of nicotine. I'm not sure about getting into it. It seems more expensive for one and there have been articles written saying it's not as good as formerly thought.
  2. pwarbi

    pwarbi Community Champion

    Many people are using e-cigs to try and quit smoking and for a lot of people they do seem to help. While I wouldn't say that they're completely harmless, compared to regular cigarettes I think they're probably the better option.

    At the end of the day though, your still going to need good old fashioned willpower to help you to quit, because while the e-cigs aren't as bad for you, all you've done is replaced one addiction with another.
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2015
  3. rightct

    rightct Community Champion

    Yeah, you're right. This is basically a sign of deliberately and consciously lying to yourself, even if you know that what you're doing didn't in fact change anything concerning the bad habit you have. That's like replacing beer with wine and saying that you quit drinking.
  4. dakotacensus

    dakotacensus Member

    I'm not sure that analogy completely holds. There's still a lot of research to do into what the effects of e-cigarettes are, but there seems to be some consensus that that are less harmful than actually smoking. Harm reduction is a viable strategy, but you are right in that it isn't the same a kicking nicotine.
  5. zaerine

    zaerine Community Champion

    I am not a smoker but I have read some articles about e-cigarettes before and not sure if those are all true. It was said that there are harmful chemicals on e-cigs that could also cause cancer. So if those are true, it is also not safe to use or as a substitute.
  6. dakotacensus

    dakotacensus Member

    The study that came out was looking at one particular use of the devices. It was found that vaporizers that operated at high voltages release some kinds of formaldehyde containing substances. This risk was not found to be present in lower voltage devices.

    One of the issues with e-cigarettes right now is that there is not a lot of comprehensive study on the long-term effects, and as result there is a lack of regulation on the devices and the liquid they use. What I hope is that we see some strong efforts to look into the situation, so that effective standards can be put in place.
  7. SarahWorksAtHome

    SarahWorksAtHome Community Champion

    I have one very simple (evod) vape and I haven't considered using it as a replacement for smoking, I use it more for the purpose of being in situations where lighting up a cigarette is not acceptable or would be rude.
  8. zaerine

    zaerine Community Champion

    Mainly because e-cigarettes are still quit new and therefore the long term effects are not available for study yet. Still I think that better to totally quit smoking than find alternatives. :)
  9. Liv6

    Liv6 Member

    I think you should definitely consider quitting nicotine altogether. Vape pens or mods may help you reach that point, as quitting cold turkey is nearly impossible, but they still do harm to your body. The bright side of e-cigarettes is that the vapor produced has so far not be proven to create a second-hand smoke type of effect on others. However, this may or may not be true. This is such an expensive addiction; quitting would not only help your body, but help your pocketbook as well.
  10. xTinx

    xTinx Community Champion

    Well, just to give you a pseudo-cigarette experience, it doesn't hurt to smoke e-cigarettes until you're totally over your nicotine addiction. Yes, smoking e-cigs has its detrimental side - but that only happens when you smoke with the same intensity as when you're addicted to cigarettes before.
  11. rightct

    rightct Community Champion

    Oh, that analogy there completely holds. Trust me when I'm telling you that smoking/drinking are two completely different habits, but the thing that they have in common is their disastruous outcome if exaggerated. Just because you're smoking e-cigs, doesn't mean you're out of danger, just like you replacing beer with wine doesn't mean you quit drinking alcohol. I hope this brought some closure.
  12. dakotacensus

    dakotacensus Member

    I understand what you saying, but you are reducing the options down to a binary of 'do it' or 'don't do it'. The reality is that it is not so simple. If it was easy for everyone to quit all their bad habits, then we'd all be on the 'don't do it' side. That is clearly not the case so somewhere between completely bad, and not bad at all, there needs to be a middle ground where it is not as bad as completely bad.

    In the case of e-cigarettes, early research suggests that they are not as harmful as real cigarettes. For someone who is having trouble completely quitting they can potentially improve their well-being through this kind of harm reduction strategy. Is it a perfect solution? No, but if it means someone's health deteriorates less quickly, and adds some years to their life, then it is better than failing to meet to high standards.
  13. missbishi

    missbishi Community Champion

    I've been using an e-cig for the last 6 months and haven't touched any tobacco at all during this period. Whilst we still aren't 100% certain of thier safety, I can tell you that my health is so much better and I'vve got more money in the bank. Overall, buying an e-cig was one of the best things I ever did. OK, I'm still addicted to nicotine but I'm slowly tapering the content of my e-cig down.
  14. sbatz72

    sbatz72 Active Contributor

    I think your story is one that sounds like a fairy tale. To be honest, I could never go from being a serious addict of 2 packs per day to now smoking an occasional cigarette. I am an addict and know that one puff will send me back down the road to needing recovery. I thought about quitting many years prior to being able to quit. I do not smoke now and it is still difficult everyday. Most importantly when I am stressed. I am not so concerned about it when I have an alcoholic beverage. This is one thing I can still enjoy on occasion. I am not an alcoholic. At least, I do not think I have an issue with alcohol.
  15. brookeemily

    brookeemily Active Contributor

    I talked to coworkers today about e-cigs and vaping. We were discussing whether or not we think they'll find negative health affects after a few years of testing it. I'm not really sure, but I think that e-cigs are a lot safer than cigarettes. E-juice doesn't have many ingredients so there aren't as many harmful chemicals.
  16. Aescopri

    Aescopri Active Contributor

    Judging from the looks of it (it looks like a surgical needle), I would try it if I were into smoking. Some of my friends have tried it, and most of them say it tastes and gives you the buzz like the real thing. But all have said that they are certainly missing the rough, paper-like texture that smoking cigarette sticks give them.
    Call it a fake, if you will—but it is slightly "healthier" than normal cigarette sticks.
  17. Jericho Mercado

    Jericho Mercado Active Contributor

    The juices come in different nicotine levels that help a person tit-rate down to zero. then whats left is the action of the addiction of the motion to light on up. I used e-cigs to quit and use them now with zero nicotine and just to puff smoke.
  18. Nergaahl

    Nergaahl Community Champion

    Well, it's cheaper than smoking regular cigarettes, as you save a lot of money and it kinda pays for itself. But it's still unhealthy, as the liquid contains many cancerous substances in it. But if you want to buy one to smoke from instead of smoking some cigarettes when you feel bad, go for it. It's still better than regular smoking and most likely you only have the urge for a few puffs, not for nicotine.
  19. SarahWorksAtHome

    SarahWorksAtHome Community Champion

    I've found out that several of my friends and my boyfriend's coworkers have used this method to quit smoking and have been successful at it. They only puff on nicotine free flavored liquid now for pleasure not out of craving or addiction. Pretty cool.
  20. Tremmie

    Tremmie Community Champion

    E-cigs are slighlty less harmful than an average cigarette, but they still pose a danger to one's health. I hate to read some people actually thing they are completely harmless, because that is not true, no matter how much e-cigs makes are spending on tricky adds that try to trick us into believeing e cigs are 100% safe. Right....