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Discussion in 'General Substance Abuse Discussion' started by Joseph, Feb 26, 2015.

  1. dblanch

    dblanch Member

    I never knew this and never saw this particular set of evidence, but I can't say I'm surprised to see the correlation. Just another way to keep people from falling into harmful drinking habits, so I hope more people see this.
  2. sclupto

    sclupto Member

    Diabetes may have a reputation for being "Manageable" and some even dicriminate agianst diabetics for being overweight or lazy, but that only applies to Type II diabetes. Type I diabetes is a nightmare. People born with this disease can never have a normal diet and many die young. The stress and pressure of the disease can drive people to drugs and alcohol, which is the last thing people with this disease need.
  3. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Senior Contributor

    Joseph posts>>>Substance abuse is described as the excessive use of a substance such as alcohol or drugs<<<

    I submit, the operative word “OTHER” would be accurate i.e. alcohol and “other” drugs. Alcohol is a drug, and separating it from other drugs is misleading, and nicotine is another example. I’ve observed for years at support groups and with online forums, addicts making this separation. Alcohol is a depressant, basically similar to benzodiazepine, it affects the vital nervous system, by slowing down vital functions, resulting in slurred speech, unsteady movement, disturbed perceptions and an inability to react quickly. Exclusively, alcohol withdrawal can cause delirium tremens, and can be deadly.

    Alcohol is the #2 killer, nicotine is #1. Many claim sobriety while slowly killing themselves with nicotine due to their view, that nicotine is not mind altering, but nothing could be further from the truth. Nicotine is an alkaloid and it affects the brain in several different ways, it changes the brain over the long-term by causing the release of noradrenaline. Nicotine is a vasoconstrictor, but also acts as a stimulant that produces a slight buzz. Nicotine being an alkaloid, as is heroin, goes directly to the brain.
  4. Onceaddicted77

    Onceaddicted77 Moderator Community Listener

    Everything is a drug my friend. Even Food and water they all promote dopamine release in the reward center that says do it again please.
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  5. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Senior Contributor

    We’re on the same page, I couldn’t agree more, it’s all chemical. All matter, including me, is made of chemicals. Chemistry being the study of the composition, structure, properties and reactions of matter is universal.
  6. Onceaddicted77

    Onceaddicted77 Moderator Community Listener

    Yep I gotcha. It's hard to not think we are nothing more than just chemical processes. It controls our thoughts our mood and our emotions everything in the universe.
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  7. Onceaddicted77

    Onceaddicted77 Moderator Community Listener

    @Bullwinkle Have you ever noticed or realized that we have about as many neurons as our galaxy has stars. What if the universe is a living organism like a big brain and we are just a micro organism living within it.

    What if everything is just on different scales down to micro organisms living in our brains. Lol

    Even solar systems look like atoms. If you were a huge giant looking down on the universe or solar system with a microscope.
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  8. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Senior Contributor

    "We are stardust We are golden And we've got to get ourselves Back to the garden"

    Woodstock
    Joni Mitchell
    I came upon a child of God
    He was walking along the road
    And I asked him, where are you going
    And this he told me
    I'm going on down to Yasgur's farm
    I'm going to join in a rock 'n' roll band
    I'm going to camp out on the land
    I'm going to try an' get my soul free
    We are stardust
    We are golden
    And we've got to get ourselves
    Back to the garden
    Then can I walk beside you
    I have come here to lose the smog
    And I feel to be a cog in something turning
    Well maybe it is just the time of year
    Or maybe it's the time of man
    I don't know who l am
    But you know life is for learning
    We are stardust
    We are golden
    And we've got to get ourselves
    Back to the garden
    By the time we got to Woodstock
    We were half a million strong
    And everywhere there was song and celebration
    And I dreamed I saw the bombers
    Riding shotgun in the sky
    And they were turning into butterflies
    Above our nation
    We are stardust
    Billion year old carbon
    We are golden
    Caught in the devil's bargain
    And we've got to get ourselves
    Back to the garden
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  9. Ecantu88

    Ecantu88 Senior Contributor

    @Onceaddicted77 I guess if I still smoked weed I could turn up the Pink Floyd and stare at the sky and see which neurons I’ve blown away. But I see what you guys are are trying to get at.
  10. True concern

    True concern Community Champion

    Very deep brother, I like it
  11. Joshstillclean

    Joshstillclean Community Champion

    Dude are you smoking pot again?
    But I agree. I think I told you once I thought about that a LOT when I got stoned. Lol but actually your on to something.
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  12. Joshstillclean

    Joshstillclean Community Champion

    I'm off right now. And I listen to pink Floyd on vinyl still- to me it sounds so much better. In on dark side of the moon about to put on the wall after.
    And I'm off today....so, yeah I've actually got pink Floyd playing as I type this.
    As for everything else I've got a medical card. So read between the lines.
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  13. Onceaddicted77

    Onceaddicted77 Moderator Community Listener

    I believe that everything started with chemistry. If I was to imagine how I thought the universe started I think it was all nothing but gases here and unknown molecules these mixed and formed other chemicals and maybe in a vacuum created huge gravity wells which compressed even more molecules and mixed more chemicals and created huge massive stars.

    I mean we have some big stars right now like we can fit 9.3 BILLION of our suns into the biggest sun we know about. And 1.3 million of our earth's into our sun just for reference lol. but these stars back then make the biggest seem small now.

    Then these anceint stars created elements and went supernova and those elements mixed with dust and created matter and then planets and of course the cycle still continues today with suns being born and dying. Maybe these anceint suns are the blackholes at the center of our galaxy's that holds everything together.

    The entire universe and everything in it down to our neurotransmitters runs on balance and that's what life is about I believe. Achieving balance.

    I believe having real purpose in life along with balanced diet and exercise and in moderation of other things we can achieve it.

    They say the sum power of the universe equals zero because it is perfectly balanced.

    Just my take lol
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  14. Joshstillclean

    Joshstillclean Community Champion

    as you probably know because you have read everything i post, i study my Bible alot...A LOT
    and recently i have been staying away from bible studies other people have written. reason being that if i read it without any outside influence i see things that i wouldnt have noticed. which is i believe how God intended us to read His word.
    and also i have really been into the book of Eccclesiaties lately- which pretty much confirms what you just said my friend.
    good thinking. the book of Genesis also has alot to say about how the cosmos works and all that if you really get deep. i think that all of knowledge (at least what humans can understand) is in the Bible, i recently have decided this after much study.
    our brains are limited as we are human, but there is so much science in there its so interesting to see. i was raised a southern baptist, and was turned off from the Bible for a long time.
    now i see that God didnt teach or preach religion. He only taught the WAY- thats what Jesus preached

    i thought id thow that out there. after discovering this, thats when i decided im not religous- i ont believe in religion.
    and i think all of our answers can be found in the Bible. like i said earlier- i think your on to something huge.
    and soon i think many will see it. you are wise.
    also ive been learning Hebrew and Greek- a whole lot is lost in the english translation.
    suttle things that mean a lot and expain a lot...its interesting to me
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  15. Ecantu88

    Ecantu88 Senior Contributor

  16. Joshstillclean

    Joshstillclean Community Champion

    i agree. the Bible is not a religous book at all. its Gods handbook on navigating through this life. simple as that.
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  17. Onceaddicted77

    Onceaddicted77 Moderator Community Listener

    I too believe the bible tells us how to be happy it's not a demand book to force you to live a certain way. It's a guide on how to find happiness and salvation within yourself.

    If you were to ask me who I thought God was I'd say he is a very big chemist who loves and has compassion and loves to Create.

    I believe he distilled the desire to create in everything he made. Even the universe creates down to the smallest ant creates his home below the earth flowers create pretty petals in the spring you name it, it probably creates something.

    Everything loves to create and of course us humans look at what we have created I believe when we are closest to his image we find happiness. Creating loving and forgiving.
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  18. Joshstillclean

    Joshstillclean Community Champion

    beatiful.
    Jesus said "love is the sum of all the commandments."
    Heres something interesting since we are on the subject...
    This is truly mind bowing too, ok so the book of PSalms- David wrote most of it but not all of it- and it not in chronological order for some reason. but Jesus said that we would know when the end days were drawing near by many things- i will only get into one specific thing tho.
    He said "All of the Torah (Genesis through Deuteronomy), the prophets (books of prophecy), AND THE PSALMS , must be fullfilled before his return. so i got to thinking...the Psalms must be fullfilled huh? thats not a prophecy book...so what dd he mean?
    well i reread it in order. and one chapter even says "Seal this up, for this is for a distant generation not yet born." THAT THEY WOULD BE STUMBLING AS IF DRUNK-BUT NOT ON WINE. THEIR WATER WILL CAUSE THEM TO GET SICK, THEIR SICKNESS WILL CAUSE THEM TO SEEK RELIEF FROM THEIR TORMENT THERE SKIN TO BE AS IF ON FIRE AND THEIR BODIES TO WASTE AWAY AND THERE EYES SUNCKEN AND BLACK.
    AND WHEN THEY SEEK RELIEF THEY WILL VOMIT AND BREATH DUST INTO THEIR NOSTRILS....THEY WILL BE A BYWORD TO ALL WHO KNEW THEM. (PARAPHRASING HERE ITS LONG)
    THEIR DOCTORS WILL KEEP THEM SICK SO THAT THEY FATTEN THEIR PURSES-AND BOILS WILL ERUPT ON THEIR SKIN FROM THE POISON THEIR HANDS HAVE MADE AND THEY WILL SURELY DRINK IT!
    IT WILL BE AS SWEET AS HONEY IN THEIR MOUTHS BUT IN THEIR STOMACHS IT WIL BECOME BITTER WINE. that got my interest i dig deeper- heres where i was mind blown, CHECK THIS OUT- EVEN IF YOU DONT BELIEVE JUST TAKE A LOOK.SCROLL DOWN
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  19. Onceaddicted77

    Onceaddicted77 Moderator Community Listener

    Boom. Mind blown. Dude that is crazy. I've heard similar story's that can relate to today's times. I've never read the bible but my wife is strongly religious and always reads hers. Go figure lol
  20. Joshstillclean

    Joshstillclean Community Champion

    it didnt post yet ill try aGAIN