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help with suboxone quick taper

Discussion in 'Opiate Withdrawal Treatment' started by RasPharma, Oct 26, 2018.

  1. RasPharma

    RasPharma Member

    English is not my first language so Im sorry for errors. For about 10 years Ive been on and off opiates.
    Started with "weak" opiates like codeine and for many years I followed the doses subscribed.
    I don't drink alcohol and haven't done so since 2012. Not a full blown alcoholic but the signs was there. Quitting alcohol was easy and Im happy for getting it out of my life.
    The main reason I got into opiates is a back injury but I quickly noticed it made me feel like a highly productive super human without stress and pain but that feeling never comes anymore. Im also a medical marijuana patient and weed is the only "drug" I ever managed to control and Ive been using it for years without it escalating into a problem. Its like it treats my reward system in a totally different way allowing me to control it. Some might say I shouldn't use MJ either but knowing myself pretty good by now I know that not having anything will never work for me. And the pharmaceutical alternative for muscle spasm, stress and pain is in no way a healthier option(I have a Master degree in Pharmacology). Im not a heavy user and use high cbd strains at a maximum of 0,5-1 gram per day and been holding on to that regimen for years.

    Ive been topping out at around 150 mg oxycodone a day but I manage around 80 without discomfort. At this dose I no longer feel any recreational effect so its all about avoiding withdrawal, pathetic.

    Im the father of 3 wonderful children and Im a hard working academic as a manager in the medical field(ironically) I love my life and consider myself a happy person except for the pills that give me a constant anxiety. It also keep me from living the active life I normally love with physical exercise and so on. The pills make me lazy and passive and make me feel apathy for a lot of things.

    In the past Ive successfully got of the pills and my lovely wife has been helping me by occasionally drugtesting me. But I came across the knowledge that oxy didn't show up on the tests I purchased and off I went again and this time at higher doses than ever. A 40 mg dose(Imediate release) don't even affect me any more so I had enough.

    Now I need to get clean so we can start over with the correct tests and Naltrexone 3 times per week. Ive made a deal with my best friend to be clean by December 8th or he will tell my family which would start a major shitstorm. So Im highly motivated.

    Through my work I manage to get 28 ct suboxone 8 mg which should be enough for a medium quick taper. Im a bit nervous about taking it since I don't know how I will react compared to 40 mg oxy. Ive tapered of before without medical assistance but I feel this time I need something since the withdrawal is far worse than previous times at lower doses, which led me into Suxoxone. I want to make it this time without involving my wife, she's been through enough of my **** and I don't want to make her sad and disappointed(again). She is the kind of person not even urging for a glass of wine on a Friday night after a week of hard work so even though she's been very supportive she can't really understand how a reward system like mine work(or doesn't work)

    So Im hoping for an answer from someone who's been running a oxy dosage similar to mine.

    I can pretty much access any medication(which off course is part of the problem)

    I live in a small town where most of my family is involved in the medical field so seeking professional help is not an option though I already attend therapy sessions).

    My plan is something like this but Im not sure of the optimal starting dose for my level of use.

    1. 8-16 mg
    2 8-16 mg
    3 8-16 mg
    4 8-16 mg
    5 8 mg
    6 8 mg
    7 8 mg
    8 8 mg
    9 4-6 mg
    10 4-6 mg
    11 4-6 mg
    12 2 mg
    13 2 mg
    14 2 mg
    Possibly a few days at 1- mg

    Hopefully someone can give me some input. Thanks in advance!
    Wish you all a lovely weekend!!

    Kind regards O
  2. Dominica

    Dominica Recovery Advocate @ Moving Beyond Codependency Community Listener


    Hello there and welcome. Thank you so much for reaching out. I'm glad that you want to get off opiates and it sounds like you've got a solid plan going. I'm not able to share much on this talk topic because I'm not experienced with it. Perhaps someone else will weigh-in that has some experience with it. Know that will be here to support you any way that we can. I'm glad that you have someone who you can be accountable to. If you find yourself struggling, perhaps you could reach out to an addiction specialist. It might help!

    I hope you have an amazing weekend as well!
  3. deanokat

    deanokat Community Organizer Community Listener

    Welcome to the community, @RasPharma. And congratulations on making the decision to free yourself from opiates. I'm very proud of you! Unfortunately, I'm not a medical doctor, nor do I have any first-hand experience with tapering off of opiates using Suboxone. So I can't give you any advice. Question: You said you got your Suboxone through work. Was it prescribed for you by a doctor? If so, your best bet would be to consult that doctor about your questions. Either that or contact an addiction specialist, who can most definitely help you out.

    We're here to help, support, and listen. Congrats again on deciding to make this huge and important change in your life. I wish you all the best!