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  1. Kathleen

    Kathleen Member

    Where do I start?
  2. Dominica

    Dominica Recovery Advocate @ Moving Beyond Codependency Community Listener

    @Kathleen hey there! start however you want... we are here to listen and support you the best way we can. never any judgment; only love here!!

    tell us a little bit about you or how we can best support you?

    know that you are not alone!
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  3. DoxyMom

    DoxyMom Community Champion

    Hi Kathleen. Welcome to the forum. Let us know if you or a family member is the addict. What drug or drugs are being used? We are here to help
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  4. Kathleen

    Kathleen Member

    Okay, I will try to reply. When my only child (40 year old son) died, I began drinking more. It helped ease the pain, depression & anxiety. So now my doctors and therapist are pressuring me to stop drinking alcohol, and to eliminate any anti anxiety medications. So I am trying to do that. They say they aren't judging me, but the comments from them are judgemental. He says I need to learn to cope, but when I ask for tools to help me with that, he says "That's a good question. Join a group" So I tried to find some AA meetings in my area, with no luck. I'm frustrated & depressed.
  5. Kathleen

    Kathleen Member

    After thinking about this further, I guess my hope is to find support with this forum, which will hopefully lead me to additional resources. Years ago, I had a great experience with a forum pertaining to an illness that my mother was dieing from. It really helped me. I guess that's all for now. Thanks for listening.
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  6. Dominica

    Dominica Recovery Advocate @ Moving Beyond Codependency Community Listener

    @Kathleen i'm so sorry for your loss. i'm sure that has been incredibly painful. grief can linger on and dig deep, for sure.

    have you been through therapy? with a good counselor? my advice is to do that for sure. this can be a very effective tool, especially in coping with grief.

    support groups can be helpful too. AA would be great, but it might not address what's going on under the drinking. the deep pain, the wounds that may be festering even from many decades.... even childhood wounds. those require more in terms of healing, (my belief)... AA is great for support and to get started on that emotional healing journey. sponsors are helpful, and COMMUNITY... a loving community that accepts you for who are you, right where you are. (which is us too)

    there's also rehab... if it's alcoholism you're dealing with, of course, a treatment program can help on that level, and provide some therapy too. if that's something you're interested in, there's an 800 number on this site you can call for information...

    know that we are here. come and share...and we will listen and offer our "amateur" advice, and a lot of love. you don't have to go through this alone.... we truly do care.
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  7. deanokat

    deanokat DrugAbuse.com Community Organizer Community Listener

    @Kathleen... Welcome to the community. I'm so glad you found us. My heart goes out to you, my dear. I am so sorry for the loss of your son. I can't imagine how hard that must've been--and continues to be--for you. My sister lost her 28-year-old son to a drug overdose just over a year ago, and I know how much pain she has suffered.

    I think @Dominica has given you some excellent advice. I think finding a therapist who specializes in grief counseling may help you, too. As far as AA meetings go...You may have already checked the AA website, but if you haven't, here's the link to find resources in your area:

    https://www.aa.org/pages/en_US/find-aa-resources

    If you can't find any meetings in your area, there are lots of online meetings. You can find them on the In the Rooms website. Here's that link:

    https://www.intherooms.com

    We are always here for you, my friend. We are a group of loving, caring individuals who always listen without judgment. So please know you can come here anytime if you need help, support, advice, or just need to vent. Come back and lean on us anytime.

    I'm sending you lots of love, light, hope, and encouragement. And strength. Lots and lots of strength.
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  8. DoxyMom

    DoxyMom Community Champion

    @Kathleen I'm so sorry to hear about the loss of your son. I can't imagine what that is like. I know many people try to self medicate using alcohol and drugs to not feel pain. You have been given some good advice. I only want to welcome you and let you know I'm here for you.
  9. cralls0821

    cralls0821 Member

    I am also a newcomer. I desperately need support getting off of subutex. I am scared to death of the wd’s. I went cold turkey in 2016 and was in intense wd for a month. But now I have a 3 year old daughter to take care of, a full time job and just finished finalizing my divorce. Please help
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  10. deanokat

    deanokat DrugAbuse.com Community Organizer Community Listener

    @cralls0821... Is the subutex being prescribed to you by a doctor? If so, they could help you taper off of it. If not, maybe seeing an addiction specialist could help you. I'm hoping @Joshstillclean weighs in on your post. He has some real-life experience in this area.
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  11. Joshstillclean

    Joshstillclean Stupidity Exists - Fact.

    @cralls0821 hey, your in just the right place.
    Can you start a thread and tell us a little bit more about your story. The more the better of course, but whatever you're willing to share.
    Dean is correct I do have experience With the suboxone, specifically Subutex. As I was allergic to naloxone and had to go to Subutex(Buprenorphine).
    Pretty sure that your on the tablets also. Most people are.
    Anyway, yeah there really is a difference in coming off of suboxone as compared to subutex. I don't have any studies or scientific data to back this up. Just personal experience.
    I was on a high dose a couple years ago and the incredibally nieve Dr (I should mention I had gone inpatient to get off of Xanax I believe) thought it was like heroin. It would suck but by the end of the week I would just be a few pounds lighter from hugging the toilet and voila,...physical part over with.
    Well when I had a heart attack because no one be lived me when I said I had been through heroin withdrawals and this was different...I was not going to live, that got someone's attention.
    Long story short. I got down to 2 mg and working with an addiction specialist I was able to taper down to nothing and was sub free for a little over a year.
    I have some family stuff going on right now and I must not relapse. Because my older parents and pregnant sister who is desperately trying to finish med school are counting on me. So yesterday unsent back on 2mg of subutex so that I wouldn't relapse. Im a recovering heroin addict.(although that's one of many substances I've been addicted to it is my favorite, or I guess I should say I hate it the most).
    Anyway there is a way to AVOID COMPLETELY ALL THE HORROR STORIES YOU HEAR!
    YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE A HEART ATTACK!
    If you can post your own thread I will walk you through how I got clean off of the last 2 mgs without any symptoms. And I mean any symptoms. (Cravings not included).
    Like unsaid after all i went through even a heart attack if I had not found a way to detox without discomfort I would not have gone back on it.
    Anyway tag me when you get youth threat up and we can talk more. You'll get through this. I promise. If you want to you can.
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  12. Dominica

    Dominica Recovery Advocate @ Moving Beyond Codependency Community Listener

    @cralls0821 i wanted to welcome you to the forum. find yourself an addiction specialist/dr. that will work with you. find a support system that works for you. your journey, your path. some go to meetings. others head to church. some counseling. some educate themselves...and mix different paths. find what works for you, but try to get some support.

    i bet your little girl is adorable! :)

    we are here to encourage you...and believe in you. wd's do suck, but you can get through them. much easier with firm support, for sure. rally your tribe and start... and, yes, joshua has some experience here too...

    take a deep breath... you're on the right track.
  13. cralls0821

    cralls0821 Member

    Oh my gosh. You have given me so much hope. I just now saw this. Thank you. Thank you.
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  14. deanokat

    deanokat DrugAbuse.com Community Organizer Community Listener

    This is awesome. :)
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