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Is there a thing called second-hand Meth?

Discussion in 'Methamphetamine / Meth' started by SunnySkies, May 14, 2015.

  1. Little S

    Little S Member

    Yes! It can be smokes, snorted and injected. I know people that smokes meth and kiss it into the partners mouth then the other person exhales it. In my part of the world meth is made with Drano liquid, Drano professional strength Crystals, batteries mainly Aa or Aaa some narcotics pain medications or allergy medications. Acetone. So this is to a person's post. people that smokes, injects, snorts, crystal Thus making this drug highly addictive and very cheap to buy $10.00 up to sky's the limit. And it's very easy to make. I do not suggest nor do I recommend anyone using this or cooking this.
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  2. Little S

    Little S Member

    karmaskeeper in Mexico, USA and around the world you have kids as young as 12 years old using this cooking this and selling it. These kids are rich beyond believe. I was in Mexico and was caught up in a raid. While the adults went to jail the kids was never arressted. We all served 2 1/2 days. Then released the kids cooking it selling it using it nothing happened to them. It's a cat and mouse game every one plays the part in reality law enforcement really don't care they play there part as well!
  3. Little S

    Little S Member

    Their is no scientific studies on that. Scienctist can't find people to volunteer.
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  4. Little S

    Little S Member

    There is very to no data on what they call 3rd hand effects. It's not called 2nd hand
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    Little S Member

  6. Little S

    Little S Member

    EUGENE, Ore. - Jim Roles rattles off chemical names - a list of toxins left behind in homes where meth has been smoked.

    Not made - just smoked.

    "Red phosphorous, ephedrine, hydrochloric or muriatic acid, sodium hydroxide," the building inspector with First Strike Environmental says.

    You can't see the residue.

    "It's basically invisible," Roles says.

    So what happens when you buy a home or move into a new rental and the past resident smoked meth?

    Strict regulations on key ingredients in methamphetamine have cut down on the number of meth labs in Oregon.

    But the meth problem has stuck around - literally.

    If meth is smoked even once in a home, you'll find traces throught the house.

    And it stays there unless it's properly clean.

    So how do you know if those dangerous toxins are inside your home or the new place you're looking to move to?

    Experts say you don't - and that's a problem.

    "Many of the chemicals from both meth production and meth use are absorbable through the skin," said Dr. Patrick Luedtke, senior public health officer with Lane County. Tthey get right away into those blood vessels that are right beneath the surface of the skin."

    A baby crawling on the floor could potentially ingest enough to get high.

    A study conducted out of Colorado by the National Jewish Medical and Research Center noted that health impacts of exposure to meth on children are relatively unknown.

    "We don't know the effects on long terms in kids of 1 of 5 or 10 exposures," Luedtke said. "We know pretty clearly from other exposures, you can permanently stunt the size of a kids lungs by exposure to certain things. They'll never be a marathon runner just because they were exposed to high levels of tobacco for a certain number of years in their life. It may be the same with high levels of other chemicals."

    Exposure to hazardous chemical residue is less when comparing smoking meth in a home with manufacturing the drug.

    But when a meth user moves out, the substance left behind - so-called "third-hand exposure" - remain until they can be removed.

    "Some of that re-crystalized meth will be on carpet, it will be on drapes, it will be on - fill in the blank," Luedtke said.

    Then it hides in every nook and cranny - even your appliances.

    "There's just too many places on a refrigerator, underneath the cooling fins, the insulation on the back of it," Roles said. "You just can't clean that."

    The study also says no published papers were found that mentioned how a child's health could be at risk due to surface contamination.

    The only reports found mentioned only meth labs.

    The State of Oregon has no statutes on meth use in a home.

    If meth has been used in a residence, unlike if it was a meth lab, which requires a professional cleanup, no action is required.

    So if you buy a home or rent, the only way to know whether there's meth residue is to get the place tested.

    "It can range from $1,200 to $1,500," Roles said, "to over $5,000."

    Roles said the threat doesn't just exist in your home, that hotel room you booked for your family, may be contaminated as well.

    So on your next vacation, how will you know if there's meth residue in the room?

    You won't.

    "That's a question that will probably never get answered because nobody is ever going to test every motel room after every guest moves out," Roles said.

    So what's the danger to you?

    To know that, there would need to be statistics. And stats are hard to come by because meth users try to stay under the radar.

    Luedtke said that in most cases, the levels of meth for third-hand exposure are low enough that our bodies can handle it by passing the toxins through the liver.
    Source: NBC 16 KMTR Thursday May 14, 2014
  7. Loneeagle329

    Loneeagle329 Member

    I have been wondering about 2nd hand meth because in the last few months I've tested hot for meth barbiturates and old style antidepressants. Thank you for the information. What are the symptoms of meth usage? How will it make me feel? This might sound stupid but both of my Adult children smoke it regularly I always seem to walk into a cloud of the smoke
  8. KimT1996

    KimT1996 Member

    Yes, their is such thing as second hand meth. "Methamphetamine is a crystal that vaporizes when heated, as in smoking. The vapor clings to surfaces and reforms into crystals. People who come in contact with these surfaces can ingest the meth through their skin or by touching contaminated surfaces then touching mouth, nose or eyes."
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  9. Method zero

    Method zero Member

    Second hand meth smoke can be very bad for you if you get to close for example some side effects may include your purse or bag being looked through eavery time you use the bathroom, haveing to hear 3 different crackey tales stories from 3 different people at the exact very time down to milla second, or eaven such very stories of in depth and i do mean IN DEPTH like really in depth like its really in there deep deep down of common sense stuff like how a bikes kick stand works IN DEPTh if you are anyone you know is suffering from any of these things GET THE F$@K OUT OF THERE BEFORE you get sidetwackeee and forget wat you were put on this earth for in the first place it dam sure wasent for your pleasure or paying a idols taxes tht act only to Mmorts cause this ain't a game here and the rec button is always on so strategize each step or or someone will do it for you and against you
  10. Dominica

    Dominica Recovery Advocate @ Moving Beyond Codependency Community Listener

    @Method zero thanks for your response. i have to say you lost me for parts of it... but i get it that you're saying there are def second hand meth smoke side effects... in depth how a kick stand works? wow... interesting! :)
  11. Method zero

    Method zero Member

    Lol u would have to been around some smokers to kno wat i mean they get over stimulated over the basic smiple things its truly priceless not eaveryone is going to get tht
  12. Dominica

    Dominica Recovery Advocate @ Moving Beyond Codependency Community Listener

  13. MeMeMeMeMe

    MeMeMeMeMe Member

    I’m not too sure about second-hand. However, I do know that when vaporizing meth, there are all those chemicals that are in it that are left behind on everything. Places where meth is done in this way have been considered almost s dangerous as places where it is made. The chemical residue settles in everything.
  14. MeMeMeMeMe

    MeMeMeMeMe Member

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  15. Rox

    Rox Member

    I had a case worker who told me it wasn't possible that there is no such thing as second hand smoke because I tested positive after going to the dope house. I tried to bullshit and say I didn't smoke when I did. Now days I see a lot of **** on social media about how some kids are testing positive from their parents smoking. I been clean over a year now but I rather not take that chance and just stay sober.
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