How does everyone deal with people who joke about this? I have several friends who joke about 'being alcoholics' as if this is something funny or desirable. They get a bottle of wine to take to dinner and say things like "oh we'll need one each because I'm such an alcoholic!", or "You know me, I'll be wasted by 10pm and passed out because I'm such an alchy". All of these friends do seem to have unhealthy relationships with alcohol - where they drink so much that they vomit, black out and make fools of themselves. I can absolutely relate as I have had those issues too, but I never thought it was something to be proud of and laugh about. I was always completely embarrassed in the morning. Feeling shame pushed me to recognizing I had a problem and addressing it. Without that I'm not sure what it would have taken for me to notice this. I wonder if anyone else knows people who say things like this? How do you respond to it?