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Kratom: What Is It and How Does It Affect You?

Discussion in 'Other Substances' started by deanokat, Jun 29, 2018.

  1. deanokat

    deanokat Community Organizer Community Listener

    There's been a lot of talk in the addiction/recovery community lately about kratom, which comes from a tropical tree that's native to Southeast Asia. When it's smoked, chewed, or consumed via things like tea, kratom can have effects that are similar to opioids or stimulants. A lot of people say that kratom helps with opioid withdrawals. Others say it helps them with pain relief. But the effectiveness and safety of this drug is a source of a lot of debate. In fact, many kratom users report that they became highly addicted to it.

    Kratom is, at least for now, legal in the United States and can be purchased online and in places like gas stations, tobacco stores, and head shops. The problem with this is that people oftentimes think that because it's readily available, it must be safe. But that's not necessarily the case (remember when synthetic marijuana could be bought at just about any gas station?).

    The link below is to a blog post all about kratom. Whether you're already familiar with this new drug or not, check out the post. Then let us know your thoughts about kratom. Have you ever used it? Is it something you would consider using to help you overcome an opioid addiction? Do you think it should be legal? We want to know what you think.

    Here's the link to the blog post:

    What's the Deal with Kratom?

    We're looking forward to hearing what you think.
  2. True concern

    True concern Moderator

    So i will not touch it,i have had to many problems already with substance's and i do believe in due time this stuff will have it's own spot on forum's such as this one.I also read on same blog that FENTANYL is now being used to cut cocaine.Buckle up people the fentanyl epidemic is gaining speed in the goal of destroying us all...even the "Recreational" drug user as Cocaine will no longer be a party drug now with fentanyl,cocaine is about to become a PHYSICAL addiction similar to heroin.This is how you destroy not just communities but Continents.This world we live in is under siege from chemical such as FENTANYL and i fear the worse is yet to come.I pray im wrong but all signs point to i am correct
  3. Dominica

    Dominica Recovery Advocate @ Moving Beyond Codependency Community Listener

    Totally stay away from it!
  4. deanokat

    deanokat Community Organizer Community Listener

  5. True concern

    True concern Moderator

    I have to say I've done some more research on Kratom and my opinion is no longer completely Anti kratom for a few reasons but I will list the most shocking one here.The F.D.A.approves Carfentanyl as safe which is absolute bullshit but Like marijuana 50+year's ago the government looks to label this "Plant"as deadlier than Heroin which the federal government has done to marijuana already,and I think we can all agree marijuana is not deadlier than heroin which is now cut with F.D.A.approved safe Fentanyl. So basically more studies need to be done,by independent companies because the government is more than willing to Lie if it makes money and creates fear.Im not saying its safe but I've read countless stories of life long heroin addicts who all of a sudden have normal stable lives which they credit to kratom."Money is the root of all evil"Look no further than the F.D.A for proof to that claim
  6. True concern

    True concern Moderator

    However just to be clear the best way to get your life back is to stop taking substance's PERIOD.There is truly no point in putting any substance in your body unless you are chasing agony and I strongly recommend you don't chase agony because if you look for it you will find it.
  7. Dominica

    Dominica Recovery Advocate @ Moving Beyond Codependency Community Listener

    @True concern thanks for the update on your research. i've not researched it yet... but i do agree that much more needs to be done..and i don't trust the gov't to "protect" the people...for sure. anyway, hope you have a good day!
  8. deanokat

    deanokat Community Organizer Community Listener

    Good info, @True concern. And yes, no substances at all is definitely the best way to go! :cool:
  9. RecoveringLife1

    RecoveringLife1 Senior Contributor

    I have taken Kratom plenty of times and I may have recommended taking it to wean off of very potent drugs on here once. Maybe it's my high tolerance, but I have never had any serious side effects except for the occasional headache from taking a little bit too much. There's a big misconception with prescription drugs being a lot more safe than natural herbs and supplements. Now I'm not going to sit here and tell you there isn't any poisonous plants in the world. However, research is key in making sure what herbs is right for you. There was a time in ancient times where our ancestors took natural medication as modern day science and medicine was not available. It's a money scheme from pharmaceutical companies to say that prescribed pills are better when they've used natural ingredients in order to make this stuff!!! Whenever I get the chance, I will grow my own fruits and vegetables, exercise whenever I'm not having any joint pain and take natural herbs and supplements or whatever modern day injections I need to correct my chemical imbalance. Not all prescribed medication is bad and not all herbs are bad. Just be careful with the source
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  10. Dominica

    Dominica Recovery Advocate @ Moving Beyond Codependency Community Listener

    Doing the research is wise.... and I do believe some herbs are helpful. I've not done the research on Kratom...and I've heard varying stories... so as with anything, get the facts and be careful. :)

    You sound very balanced...good for you!
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  11. deanokat

    deanokat Community Organizer Community Listener

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  12. Lostboy8731

    Lostboy8731 Community Champion

    Wow I've heard of it but never been exposed to it and now reading all of your posts and research on it I'm glad i did'nt. Scary stuff. Great job on being very thorough and bringing forth loads of research material to educate ppl.
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  13. Joshstillclean

    Joshstillclean Stupidity Exists - Fact.

    Just saw this old post of yours. This statement bumped you up to one of the top spots on my "people I can trust" list.
    @Dominica awsome stance!
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  14. Joshstillclean

    Joshstillclean Stupidity Exists - Fact.

    I've had a friend lay in the bed of my truck ibdisnt believe he was not back on oxycontin. So I took him to get some dope. It didn't fix him. Not all the way anyway. So I'm scared really bad of kratom. He was different than just Dopesick now that I think about it. It had screwed up his brain. Like a benso detox kinda.
    You are right @Dominica stay away! Far far away! This stuff...we don't know all the dangers. But ill tell you the first time I smoked k2 when it was legal I said no way. And I was into shooting hard stuff. I was no stranger to drugs. The big boy stuff. And I called that one.
    I'm calling this one too.
    Its only a matter of time.
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  15. RSH85

    RSH85 Member

    Personally, I am a huge proponent of kratom. I use it medicinally and to cure addiction. I just recently cut down and yea the withdrawals aren't that bad but my digestive system was blown up on par with a decent opiate habit. I'm also lethargic and less motivated. More info
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2019
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  16. deanokat

    deanokat Community Organizer Community Listener

    Not that I don't think kratom doesn't help you, @RSH85, but if it blew up your digestive system and made you lethargic and less motivated, is it really that great of a thing? Also, I don't think anything can actually cure addiction. Just my opinion.
  17. kellywet20

    kellywet20 Member

    As always, I'm lucky because I find interesting topics and threads that have been closed for a long time. I, too, used to be fond of drugs, but now I looked closer at a more universal substance. Kratom, or Mitragyna speciosa, is an evergreen tropical tree that millions of Americans consume regularly, but there is no solid evidence that the substance is causing an increase in overdose deaths in the United States. Many addicts have started to buy weed shatter canada online in order to become more free in their choice of substances that help cope with withdrawal. I have a question: people who cannot afford such a substance, can they replace it with methadone?