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Meth and Bad Decisions

Discussion in 'Methamphetamine / Meth' started by JoshPosh, Mar 3, 2015.

  1. JoshPosh

    JoshPosh Community Champion

    Years ago back in Hawaii there was a story on the news and it reported that police was called to a residence by concerned neighbors, that there may be child negligence. Upon knocking on the door a little girl answered the door. The officers had asked where her parents were and she said she left and never came back.

    What was found in this case was that the mother who was a known Meth user had left her 6 years old daughter and 4 month old son and never returned home. The little girl was feeding herself and her little brother with dry ramen and tap water. Further inspection found that the infant had soiled diapers for days and need medical treatment.

    Now its obvious that the mother was to blame. But do you think that Meth is the reason why she did what she did? Meth can make you do irrational things. Should she be allowed to take the kids back if she gets cleaned up?
  2. TripleD123

    TripleD123 Community Champion

    From what I have seen meth users always go back to the drug. They can sober up 100 times and they always seem to use again for the 101th time. There is no excuse for abandoning your children. No excuse. If that mother was willing to do it once and leave her children in harms way that mother will do it again. Of course the meth addiction had something to do with it but you have to know right from wrong when it comes to children no matter how screwed up you are.
  3. timelord731

    timelord731 Senior Contributor

    I think it just puts into a whole different world.
  4. kjonesm1

    kjonesm1 Community Champion

    I think that as a parent she needed to clean up her act. I don't care if she cleans up, she should never get her children back. It disgusts me that she chose drugs over her kids. You can't blame the drugs, it is the person using the drugs who makes the decision to use. Addicts quit using all the time, there is no excuse for such gross negligence.
  5. JoshPosh

    JoshPosh Community Champion

    Yup. I agree. They showed the pictures of the kids on TV. The crib had urine and feces in it. Child Protection was called in and the kids were malnutritioned, obviously.
  6. Determined2014

    Determined2014 Senior Contributor

    I do believe that the mother is to blame and not meth, if she really wanted to get hihg that bad, she sould have gotten high right there in the house , where she can at least be present, but living a four month old, that is beyond meth, I would say that , that was her own ignorance.
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  7. May102014

    May102014 Active Contributor

    Ever since drugs existed it was always synonymous to trouble and bad decisions. The fact that she left her children was sign that wasn't in the right state of mind. She let the drug dominate her well being in a way where she wasn't able to care for her children like a mother normally does. Drugs undoubtedly ruins lives not only the users but also their families.
  8. vegito12

    vegito12 Community Champion

    Drugs is a thing, that people can abondon family for and also not think of the consequences and I have known people who have done that and one person I know his family limit contact with him as he chose meth over them. It may bring some sort of happiness but that is usually what the brain is tricked into seeing and when it wakes up realizes to late that it is not something good. I hope people learn from this story, in this one the children had to suffer and it must be hard to live with their mum leaving them and even if she was back she would have to be watched or have supervision due to her actions.
  9. ReadmeByAmy

    ReadmeByAmy Community Champion

    I pity those children and they should had not experienced things like that at a very young age. The mother is the one whom to blame for what had happened. How can a parent like a mother will abandoned her kids just like that just to please herself for her own pleasures and satisfaction to these toxic substances that had brought her to act something strange like that. Anybody had a second chance and if ever she will come back and willing to change for the sake of her children then why not give it to her. If she realized her faults and mistakes its a good sign for her recovery. After all she is the mother of the children and when she is already in her clear state of mind I'm sure she will love her children more.
  10. bsthebenster

    bsthebenster Community Champion

    I'm sure things like this have happened with users of other drugs too, such as alcohol and crack. What I don't understand is why these people have kids in the first place. I'm fine with people doing meth and keeping their problems to themselves, there's no harm in that, but this is ridiculous. People like that should be shot.
  11. JoshPosh

    JoshPosh Community Champion

    Being shot as bit too harsh, but the mother should be held accountable. That is universal here. Maybe in the middle east being put to death for this crime sounds doable, but not in America, no way.
  12. Nick W.

    Nick W. Community Listener Community Listener

    Yeah, I think "being shot" is a knee-jerk reaction to the scenario, and not something that is realistic or should happen in this day and age. That being said, I do not think that meth was the culprit here. The truth is, she made a poor parenting choice when she decided to have children and become an addict, or to do drugs while having children. There was more than likely a series of bad choices involved. I don't know if she should have her kids back or not, I'd have to know a little bit more about the details, the treatment, and the person involved. Another knee jerk reaction would be to say NO WAY, but there are a lot of factors involved here.
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  13. keekz38

    keekz38 Member

    That's truly a sad story. I think people do what they do while on meth because it alters your brain. You don't think the same way you would have. A lot of the time, people who use, are trying to escape their reality because they're not happy with their lives.

    I think if she receives years of therapy and rehabilitation, she should be able to have her kids back.
  14. Nick W.

    Nick W. Community Listener Community Listener

    I don't totally disagree with this, but the process needs to be thorough. There needs to be constant testing and checkups with the children and parents. It needs to never forget that child safety is the first and most important priority.
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  15. amethyst

    amethyst Community Champion

    Wow, I am surprised that the kids survived. That was a very smart and responsible little girl. She was taking responsibility and managed to save herself and her little brother. I can't imagine what these kids must have gone through. Thankfully, some concerned neighbors kept their eyes and ears open and alerted the authorities. In many cases neighbors simply "shut down". They don't want get involved in anything.
    Who is to blame? Personally, I would not point the finger only at the mother of these kids, but obviously also at the drug and what the drug did to her mind, and not to forget the manufacturers and dealers of meth. They are all responsible for it.
  16. adfnio

    adfnio Community Champion

    That's bad man. That lady needs to go to jail immediately and not be given custody ever again. She should be ashamed of herself.
  17. JadeVengeance

    JadeVengeance Active Contributor

    Some people just escape and leave things behind sadly. It saddens me that children have to go through this every day
  18. Martha

    Martha Member

    I cannot forgive parents who are so careless and do not care for their children at all. If they are addicted to drugs they should at least provide for their children.

    One of my neighbours also did the same thing and left his children after addiction got the better of him. Fortunately his wife who had separated from him came back and collected the children and now she looks after them.
  19. I disagree with all of you! First and for most is it not our place to judge other human beings. I will say that I am a recovering meth addict and you people have everything backwards. I never for one minute stopped loving my children with all my heart..NEVER!!! Am I guilty for making a bad decision and trying meth once to see what was so great about it? YES!!! I'm also guilty of liking the energy I had and the amount of chores I got done without being completely exhausted since I was only 21 and had three children already and married to a man who was very mean and unfaithful to me, but I was young and didnt have a good role model to look up to growing up, and he provided for us very well and I loved him and wanted to badly to have a perfect family and make good choices since my teens were spent making awful ones which landed me pregnant at 16. I met my ex husband at 18 and married him six months later. Financially we were did well we were definitely on our way up the ladder. I didn't work so I depended on him. After my third daughter was born our neighbors did meth and so we tried it.... we did it occasionally at first and that's how we intended to be forever. If I could of chose my children over meth before they for taken from me and I went to jail I would've..... however by the second time I tried meth, my brain was already changing however you have no idea your addicted to it until you are and you see everything falling around you and your neglecting your children, domestic violence starts, your either high getting meth or coming down so hard that you physically can't get up to tend to your children and you pass back out because you've been up for weeks. The problem is as bad as you know you need help you can't because the drug has taken over your brain. I know I've been there!! Feb.24 2009 was the last time I ever shot meth into my vains, I got arrested in my home and had to wake up my now 5 children at 2 am in the morning my youngest being 6 months old and send them with awith a stranger without crying or the cops were going to, and tell them I loved them and I would see them soon. I didn't see them for a month while I was in jail and they were deciding on my bond.. never got into any legal trouble before...After about two weeks in jail of doing nothing but eating and sleeping I got to read my report and discovery, the things I read I could not believe my eyes. I would never do any of those things.... however everything was true. That's when I had a choice to choose my kids over drugs, I was finally for the first time in 5 years I was clear headed enough to. I got out of jail and did everything and boy do they make it hard on you... which they should I completed rehab and visits and therapy and got a place and I did it in only 7 months... it usually takes between 1 to 2 years to get your children fully back!! My oldest child just graduated high school with a 3.4 gpa and is enrolled in Cmu to start in the fall my 15 yr old daughter just finished her to freshman year with a 3.6 gpa and dances on a professional dance team my 14 year old daughter starts high school and ended 8th grade a cheerleader and with a 3.0 gpa. My two youngest are still in elementary my son is a football and baseball player, my youngest is the baby so that should explain that lol and does gymnastics. I go to work everyday and I devote the rest of my life to them . This is me!!! That other woman was a meth addict, it doesn't give you an option, until your brain is fully off it and even then it takes a long time to recover and it Never fully does, I will be on brain medication forever now because my brain doesn't work the same as a healthy brain but i take my meds and judging by my children I do a fantastic job..thank you
  20. deanokat

    deanokat Community Organizer Community Listener

    @Recoveringaddict35... Thanks for your insightful post. I'm so glad to hear that you've been free from meth for more than 8 years now! That's so awesome! And I'm happy that your kids are doing so well, too! You have definitely turned things around!

    Keep doing the next right thing. :)