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Discussion in 'Heroin' started by Cajean, Mar 24, 2017.

  1. Cajean

    Cajean Member

    Our 25yr old son has been a heroin user for 7yrs , 3mths ago he went to hospital with high fever(103.00) had 2 strokes was transported to another hospital and admitted for endocarditis w/septic emboli including CNS,subarachnoid hemorrhage,aortic valve insufficiency and a bunch of other things....along with 6wks of antibiotics thru a PIC line they put him on suboxone sublingual.He is home now going forth with dental work he needs to have his valve replaced...we give him his suboxone in am and pm..we noticed some days he acts as if he was high and other days not..is this normal..could he still be getting high..he does get tested at clinic his buprenorphin has always been >74.3 and creatinine urine has always been high 222.1 / >284.20.. and there's + on norBupenorphin 2015.0 , Buprenorphine 494.5 , norfentanyl 2840.5 what does this mean I am so confused and concerned....thanks
  2. deanokat

    deanokat DrugAbuse.com Community Organizer Community Listener

    @Cajean... Welcome to the community. Unfortunately, we are not medical doctors and cannot interpret those test results for you. I would suggest you ask your son's doctor or the clinic that does the testing. As far as whether or not your son could still be getting high, anything's possible. But I would think the clinic would take some action if the tests showed that he was.

    Sending you and your son lots of good energy.
  3. Cajean

    Cajean Member

    Oh I know...just thought I could get some feedback...and it's hard to speak to dr's because of his age....just didn't know if anybody had the same readings...thank you
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  4. I feel your pain as an addict for almost 9 years of fentanyl and having od'd numerous times, renal failure and having hep c and none of that made me quit until I got busted in Dayton with a big quantity and decided to just hang it up. It is all up to him unfortunately. I've tried dosing for almost a year at 135mg and that personally wasn't any better also tried the subs and personally and this is just for me the answer is total abstinance. Opiate w/d won't kill you. You will probably contemplate suicide a time or two because of how shitty you feel but I haven't heard of anyone dying if we are being straight up. Cajean if your son is well enough to text or call I can give you my number to pass on to him. But like I said until he's sick and tired of being sick and tired recovery is unlikely. I'm not being a dick just want you to know what's up. And you've probably figured it out by now but we as addicts are cunning and very manipulative so don't ever underestimate our disease but never stop standing by him. It's means the world to him whether he shows it or not.
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  5. Cajean

    Cajean Member

    Thank you
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  6. deanokat

    deanokat DrugAbuse.com Community Organizer Community Listener

    @Cajean... How are things going with you and your son? Just curious. Sending you both lots of positive energy.
  7. Cajean

    Cajean Member

    Ok he is still taking his soboxone, still doing dental work so he's ready for his valve replacement..thank you and same to you
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  9. Cajean

    Cajean Member

    He got 3 strikes so they kicked him out of program he says it's a "**** hole" and his top of hands are swollen..I think he's shooting fentynol..the past 2 pee tests showed positive for fentynol and gabapentine???
  10. Cajean

    Cajean Member

    He said he wants to change places??? We see him take his suboxen twice a day ???
  11. deanokat

    deanokat DrugAbuse.com Community Organizer Community Listener

    @Cajean... If he wants to go to a different treatment facility, that might be worth a try. But I would not let him come live in your house. That's asking for trouble. He's 25 years old. He has to take some responsibility for his life decisions/actions. I'm sorry you're going through this.
  12. Cajean

    Cajean Member

    He has moved back in with us after he was released from hospital..on 1/11/17 he had 2 strokes, brain hemorrhage and endocarditis (he was born with only 2 instead of 3 leaflets in his aortic valve) for days he couldn't move , speak or recognize pictures...prior to this we didn't allow him to live here...5+-yrs...he is the oldest of 4..... if almost dying didn't knock sense into him I don't know what will
  13. deanokat

    deanokat DrugAbuse.com Community Organizer Community Listener

    @Cajean... I will keep you and your son in my thoughts and prayers. I know you're in a tough situation. Go forward, be brave, and keep the faith.
  14. Peachtree

    Peachtree Member

    I am not sure about all those readings you are talking about, but if it is within your ability to drug test him you can get urine test kits from Amazon and it's as simple as positive or negative. Heroin is only detectable in urine for 1 - 2 days, so if you get a positive reading, outside of a faulty test, he has been using. Suboxone doesn't show a positive on these tests My son also has tried to tell me he's not high it's just the Subs, but I know better. He is 32 and I can't do anything about it except stomp my feet, don't loan him money, try to help when asked and pray. Addicts have their 'speels' down pretty good. Good luck with your son!
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  15. Cajean

    Cajean Member

    Jacob passed in November
  16. Debz

    Debz Member

    So sorry for your loss.
  17. Dominica

    Dominica Author, Writer, Recovery Advocate Community Listener

    @Cajean ah, i'm so sorry. i'm sure it's been incredibly sad for you and your family. i'm truly sorry for the loss of your son.
  18. deanokat

    deanokat DrugAbuse.com Community Organizer Community Listener

    @Cajean... I'm so sorry to hear about your son. Addiction is a disease that takes so many away from us much too early. My heart aches for you and everyone affected by Jacob's death.