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Officials coming down on doctors

Discussion in 'Prescription Drugs' started by Deeishere, Feb 25, 2016.

  1. Deeishere

    Deeishere Active Contributor

    In North Carolina there is a high rate of doctors prescribing pain medications to their patients who have chronic pain. The results of carelessly writing so much pain meds is drug overdose that has risen to 75% since 2002. I was looking at the chart this website had shown and Asheville actually had the highest rate of overdose. Asheville is a very ritzy area. It is known for the Biltmore hotel. According to the article, officials are now coming after the doctors to get this abuse under control. What surprises me is how doctors would prescribe so much knowing that it will cause addiction.

    http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article61525372.html
  2. Rainman

    Rainman Community Champion

    I think doctors at times have no choice but to prescribe medication which they know will relieve their patients pain. If they don't the option would be to look up symptoms online and they'd buy the drugs online anyway and this would probably make things worse than they already are. It's a good initiative nonetheless and I hope they'll be able to solve the problem.
  3. Tsky45

    Tsky45 Community Champion

    Relieving the symptoms is a lot more profitable than finding a cure. It's not really a surprise they would prescribe so much medication, big pharma is big business. I'm not sure if doctors do this every where tho. I think most doctors would be concerned about officials doing what they did in your state. Those pain killers can kill people, they should be careful how they give them out, and most of all look for a cure to the cause of pain.
  4. MrsJones

    MrsJones Community Listener Community Listener

    My perspective of this subject is that treatment is probably available but insurance companies are not covering either all or part of the cost and some physicians are aware of this because they know they won't get paid so the next best option for the patient's treatment is to write scripts for pain and call it pain management.
  5. vegito12

    vegito12 Community Champion

    I think that this a good thing as sometimes doctors can give some medication which will make the pain increase or not solve the problem the way the person wants to and also I hope that doctors don't give medicine, which is not needed by the one who needs medicine for the body. It is important for the doctors to see what the patient needs as sometimes a person thinks they need the medication and the doctor gives it and does not think of the consequences which can occur. I reckon that some doctors get bribed in some countries and don't think of the results from this and some do this for profits and don't think about the patient which is important and hope we see more research done about this in the future.
  6. SashaS

    SashaS Community Champion

    It's strange how becoming a doctor should usually be reserved for smarter people, who received the correct education and should be grateful for their job, therefore taking pride in what they do and making sure their customers receive the right medication. Yet you get doctors who are lazy or simply don't care. I once had a serious abscess in my ear and after spending a large amount of money on pills that my doctor prescribed, we realized after they were finished that the pills had nothing in them and I was literally scammed, by my own doctor. Here in South Africa we have a system where African ( dark skinned ) people receive privileges white people do not, called Black Economic Empowerment. It essentially means that an unqualified black person will receive a job that requires training and education without even having gone to school, before the white person who has done the right studying does. This is why our president dropped out of school in 9th grade. So some doctors are actually just unqualified and don't know what they're doing. Some doctors probably get bribed to give their customers extra medication to feed their addiction, either way, it's not right. There just needs to be regulation and the authorities should do what OP mentioned.
  7. explorerx7

    explorerx7 Senior Contributor

    Why blame the doctors? I am certain that the doctors didn't prescribe the medication so that people can abuse it and become addicted. However because of suffering from severe pain some persons will take the drug contrary to instruction and eventually become hooked on the substance, remember that people sometimes get hooked on non-prescription drugs also.
  8. Adrianna

    Adrianna Community Champion

    They do this so carelessly because they can make something like $50,000 a year or more from the pharmaceutical companies that make the drugs. Little bonus money for them. Clearly when doctors act like this they don't care. 75% increase on drug overdose. They probably just keep taking it cause it's not touching the pain. Think more will do it. But I am sure that some of these pain killers only make pain worse. People don't get that it's ok to use it a little bit but when you keep going with it day after day. You have a problem. It should be that eventually you are off of it. Even if you have pain you need to tough it out or it will continue. Body will not heal with all this toxic garbage in it.
  9. OHelloMe

    OHelloMe Active Contributor

    I think it is horrible that the Drug Enforcement Agency is going after doctors. A doctor in California got 30 years in prison because three of her patients lied to her and then ended up overdosing and dying. The doctors are not the ones that law enforcement needs to be investigating. It is the true criminals and malicious cartels that they need to go after.
  10. Zyni

    Zyni Community Champion

    They know that many of the drugs cause a host of other awful side effects as well, yet they still write the prescriptions. It's ridiculous.

    Exactly right. I'm dealing with this right now. Plus, with all this "cracking down" it's difficult to get pain medication, even for people who don't abuse it and really need it. Now, they want to prescribe all manner of "off label" drugs instead, that have horrible side effects (including addiction). I'm so frustrated right now.
  11. Deeishere

    Deeishere Active Contributor

    Yeah this is very frustrating for me as well. I have a medical condition and I need to take pain pills but not a lot. Maybe 3-5 pills per month. Yet before I can get another prescription, I have to come in and get more test done which costs a lot since insurance will not pay for much. I hate that I have to go through all this hassle. It takes a few people to make everyone suffer.
  12. OHelloMe

    OHelloMe Active Contributor

    My hematologist shared some wise words with me about a year ago, "You have documented chronic pain condition. If you buy illicitly or use heroin on the streets to control your pain because your doctors would not write you any scripts, well then, we are just as at fault and potentially liable for undertreating you as we are for overmedicating you!"

    That thought made me think, and it was thanks to my hematologist that I finally got into pain management with a brilliant and compassionate pain specialist.
  13. Zyni

    Zyni Community Champion

    I do tend to fear that this will lead to more people hitting the street for drugs instead of having medication regulated by an physician and pharmacist. I wasn't really going to touch that slippery slope, but I can't say the thought didn't cross my mind. All the common issues apply, but another problem is that the purchase of illicit drugs will doesn't offer people information on side effects, drug interactions, what to watch for to beware of overdose, etc. Sounds like the potential for a much bigger mess to me.
  14. sillylucy

    sillylucy Community Champion

    I really wish that someone would evaluate these docs and figure out how many is too many prescriptions. They are ruining our lives when they are out of hand. Why isn't there more regulation and more doctors being put in jail for this but cops will crack down if you have a joint in your pocket. This country can be so backwards.
  15. JohnBeaulieu

    JohnBeaulieu Community Champion

    These officials need to be careful on who they crack down on and why. This kind of crap makes pain management difficult for those without addictions when not handled correctly.
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  16. Deeishere

    Deeishere Active Contributor

    So true John. I hope I don’t have any problems with the pain medication I take. My doctor can clearly see in my chart that I am not getting refills frequently. I used only as needed for pain. For the most part I try other things first. I don’t want to be addicted to medication nor have to take any medication a lot.
    It reminds me of gun control. The guns are taken away from law abiding citizens while all the crooks and those with mental issues, keep them.
  17. OHelloMe

    OHelloMe Active Contributor

    I'm going to have to completely disagree with you. Doctors aren't criminals for prescribing medications. Including those who come off as shady pill pushers. Typically speaking it is by no means easy to get a narcotic script regularly from a doctor without full documentation and supporting evidence of the condition.

    I do believe there needs to be medical board parameters for scripting opiates. At the same time, there needs to be flexibility and so long as a physician is able to document and justify a script at X quantity and X milligrams, there should be no reason to question or accuse the doctor of wrongdoing. Cases similar to this doctor in california are not murder and shouldn't carry the same penalties of murder.

    Neglectful? Yes.
    Irresponsible? Yes.
    Malpractice? Yes.
    Murder? Absolutely not.

    Spending taxpayers money prosecuting cases like that one could be better allocated to developing pain management clinics that specialized in chronic pain. The LA Times article I linked talks about how the doctor did not take responsibility for her actions.

    What about those young patients and their drug addiction? Had this doctor not existed for them they would've found another way.

    Personally, I believe the system is very dysfunctional. What if guidelines weren't about how much medication a chronic pain patient needed? What if the guidelines included mandated counseling for those on prescription medication above X dosage? What if they mandated that patients were to require to keep a medication log? What if the guidelines made narcan scripts standard for anyone above X dosage?

    How would that change the system? Think about it.
  18. JohnBeaulieu

    JohnBeaulieu Community Champion

    It is a bit off topic, but I need to point out that people with mental illness are not more dangerous or violent with guns or otherwise. Contrary to what the media and ignorant politicians would have you believe, people without any mental health issues are more likely to shoot you than somebody struggling with a mental illness. The imaginary line we draw between mental and physical illness needs to be abolished. Somebody with depression isn't more likely to shoot you anymore than the common cold or the flu makes a person a gun risk.
  19. BBarnett22

    BBarnett22 Member

    In my opinion there should be a regulated limit on how many narcotics a doctor can prescribe in around a two to three month period. Just like the laws for suboxone and/or addiction medicines to help people medically manage their addiction. Even ER doctors should be regulated. For suboxone (buprenorphine) doctors they are only allowed one hundred active patients at one time before they have to stop taking patients. The government needs to take further steps on prescription regulation IMO.
  20. JohnBeaulieu

    JohnBeaulieu Community Champion

    Well I guess it is a good thing that your opinion doesn't determine actual policy. Yikes.
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