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Quiting crystal. Some info please?????

Discussion in 'Methamphetamine / Meth' started by Meth.is.the.devil, Feb 8, 2017.

  1. So ive been smoking meth for roughly 4 months. Not daily right away, but id say daily for the last 2 to 3 months. A bad break up affected me enough to stop caring about my own well being..... we recently reestablished connection, only to find that she too had picked up the poisonous habit,though not as heavily as me. We have both decided that it stops today. Absolutetly finished. Ive done a lot of looking around online, so im familiar with the effects of meth and the withdrawl symptoms. But im wondering what is the intensity level of these withdrawl symptoms i can expect, having done it for roughly 4 months, with 2-3 months of daily use. [I am 23 and reasonably healthy]. I know its different for everyone, but does anyone have ballpark ideas of what i can expect? Thanks for any and all responses
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  2. deanokat

    deanokat DrugAbuse.com Community Organizer Community Listener

    @Meth.is.the.devil... I posted this reply to your post in another thread, so I'm copying and pasting it here:

    Welcome to the forum. I don't have any personal experience that would allow me to answer your question intelligently, so I'll defer to others who maybe can help. But I will say this: I commend you and your girlfriend for making the decision to stop using meth. Your lives will be better because of it and I wish you both the best of luck as you start this journey of recovery together.
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  3. Thank you so much!! Im nervous butb very excited gmfor the outcome. Thanks for taking the time to respond :)
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  5. Lostboy8731

    Lostboy8731 Community Champion

    My experiance when i first got sober before falling agan. was that Your gonna be very tired and irritable at times as well eventually youll start craving sugars. I advise having powerades close by and lots of sleep amd healthy foods. Also shower lots and oral hygiene as well. Good luck keep us posted
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  6. Lostboy8731

    Lostboy8731 Community Champion

    @Meth.is.the.devil hope you both are doing well. So very proud of both of you for making the choice to quit together. Know that i and many others are praying for you both and believing you will succeed in your journy to recovery. Check in when you can with an update. Prayers and blessings
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  7. Lostinvoid

    Lostinvoid Member

    hello, im an IV meth user who is also 23 years old. I can only tell you what my personal experience has been like. the good thing is you havent been using that long. That means less damage has been done to your brain. So stop while you still have a functioning brain! As far as what the withdrawal symptoms are like, ill tell you what its been like for me. Extreme fatigue, like I did a whole body workout. You will sleep for days at a time depending on how long youve been up. Youll only wake up to use the bathroom and eat. And expect to EAT everything, if youve been going days and days without eating. The cool part about this is food will taste better than it ever has, so take pleasure in that :) You will most likely experience some agitation, some worse than others. The worst by far symptom for me, is depression and suicidal thoughts. Over time meth blocks dopamine receptors making you feel depressed. That's why its so SO important to stop while your ahead, you can make it out of this still feeling intact. The fatigue which is the most physical symptom, only lasts at most a week for me. But the depression can last much longer, depending on how much and how long you've been using. This is why relapse is so common, you'd do anything to feel happy. Don't fall for that trap, you WILL eventually feel better on your own without the use of drugs. I hope this helps you even the slightest bit. Good luck to you and I hope you find sobriety.
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  8. True concern

    True concern Community Champion

    @Lostinvoid I would like to hear how long you have been using,how much you use,how often you use,how long do you stay awake on average, and have you ever missed while injecting?
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  9. Lostinvoid

    Lostinvoid Member

    Hello, I'd be glad to answer your questions. I've been using for three years, maybe a little longer. Really I don't have a limit to how much I use, I use as much as I can afford which usually is a half gram or gram at a time. I use everyday, but if your asking how long between doses it really depends on the roa "route of administration". For snorting, I'll usually re dose every 20-30 minutes. But sometimes I will get so focused on a useless task "searching my carpet for dope" that an hour or more could go by and I wouldn't have noticed. Smoking for me is a whole different demon. I will take huge hits back to back till I get "stuck" if you've ever heard of that. Is pretty much like being disabled. You will sit completely still not saying word. You will have no brain activity going on unable to process a simple thought. All you know is your speeding, and your heart rate is high as hell. This process goes on all the way till the bags gone. Never quite reaching the high I was wanting. This is why I don't prefer smoking it. Then there's injecting/iv use. This is my preferred roa by far. Injecting i will re dose every couple hours. Sometimes if I shoot enough I'll be totally out of my mind for 3-4 hours. The high is so intense that there is just no way I would think to use more without giving it some time to wear off. Even tho this roa is most effective for me, it has been this roa that has got me pink slipped 3 times. Where I'm from that's what they call taking you To the psych ward (looney bin/nuthouse). The rush is what makes me shoot up, its unlike any other way of using it. On average I will stay awake for 3-5 days. After day 3 things will start getting strange and I will be audio and visual hallucinations. Anything past five days is guaranteed to be trouble for me. Either I will suffer from psychosis and need to be mentally evaluated or I will be stealing **** to get drugs and go to jail. The longer I stay up the more I'm willing to risk it all to keep going. And have i ever missed a shot? ABSOLUTELY. I used to have my friend inject me for me cuz I didn't have steady hands to do it. well he's in jail now so ive had to to learn how to do it myself. I will be so desperately to get dope in the vein that I know I'm missing but keep pushing the plunger anyway out of desperation. And if you've you've ever missed a shot of meth, you know it. Its a burning sensation you'll never forget and HURT very badly. Every time I've missed my skin raises a huge bump at the injection site usually causing bruising. It will hurt to touch but I try to massage the area to prevent a cyst forming. Thank God I have never had a cyst! I'm extremely lucky cuz I've missed many shots. I hope that answers your questions!
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  10. True concern

    True concern Community Champion

    Yep that answers my question, I shot meth off and on for over 20 year's, I have also missed and ya that battery acid in the dope will burn holes in your flesh,the dope will destroy you ,you already know this.You want help,you want to quit but there is still much of the dope your still in love with,I'm not mocking you I can just tell because like I said it took me over 20 year's to break free.I will pray for you my friend and I want you to read my story ,it will show you where your headed if you don't learn to love yourself again,in a healthy way.

    This is my story of addiction.I was born in the early 80's at the age of six year's old i was diagnosed with A.D.H.D.at that time there was a new F.D.A.approved drug by the name of Ritalin.At first it seemed to be a miracle pill,I was on this pill until the age of 18 at that time i decided i was no longer going to take this pill and it began just under a year passed and someone said "Have you ever tried crystal"which i had not at that time but i tried it and instantly noticed that it was 100% the same effect i got from Ritalin only difference was it lasted longer,or seemed to but honestly it was probably the quantity i was doing was greater than that of Ritalin i struggled with meth on and off for roughly 20 year's,not only meth but i was as well consuming 750ml of Jack Daniel's a day plus a 12 pack of beer.For those who don't know when you mix the two you don't appear to get drunk which is very deadly because infact you do get drunk however you don't realise it until it's too late meaning alcohol poisoning.I experienced this a few times and actually died on a hospital bed due to this fact,it took 3 hits with a defibrillator to restart my heart and i was told the only reason I was hit 3 times was because i was only 19 year's old,but usually after the second time if your heart doesn't restart you are then pronounced dead,but a nurse pleaded with the Dr.to try one more time and he did and my heart started back up.I didn't know at the time but that nurse was actually the mother of the lead singer of Sublime who just lost her son to a heroin overdose.I am forever grateful for that nurse without her plea i would be another statistic.Unfortunately I didn't quite using drug's at that time i just traded substances.I started abusing pain pills heavily and increased that addiction to catastrophic proportions,it got so bad i started injecting heroin which i quickly traded for oxycontin because it was much stronger than heroin.I abused fentanyl as well but nothing compared to the oxycontin.At my worst i was injecting 240-320mg's of oxycontin a day,feeling i wouldn't survive another month i decided to seek help.I'm poor and i come from poor parent's so my options were limited,i ended up at a methadone clinic for help slowly decreasing my extremely high tolerance.At the clinic i had an interview with a drug addiction counselor and an addiction physician,i was hoping for good news but what i heard shock me to my core.I was told by both the same thing,"Sir we are sorry to tell you but your addiction and tolerance is beyond the point of return,whether you quit or continue either way you cannot survive you have if your lucky a month to live"My heart sank and i decided at that moment if i was going to die i would die trying.I went home and prayed and then i called my wife into the room to tell her the news.At that moment i apologized to her told her how much she meant to me and made her promise if i didn't make it she would move on re marry and live a happy life and she noded yes.After that i quite cold turkey and suffered pain and sickness i cannot describe,for 27 straight day's i did not leave the bedroom,i did not eat,i did not sleep,i hallucinated,i screamed in intense unimaginable pain,i lost over 50 pound's in that time frame and had to be rushed to the hospital 3 time's where they would rehydrate me and try to give me pain shots to stall the detox which i refused.On day 28 I took my first steps after i quite and by the grace of God i survived and this May im married 18 year's to my beautiful wife and guardian angel.This is the first time I've shared my story of addiction and i did it for one reason alone,i want everyone to know i understand what you are going through and no matter how bad it gets there is hope.I'm here for each and everyone of you,if you ever need someone to talk to,if you ever feel no one understands im all ears and i do understand.Stay Strong We're rooting for you.

    I comment on here everyday so read my story,look around the site,absorb the pain in the stories we share and think on it all night.If you are serious about wanting help and support I will know tomorrow after you dig within your soul tonight and think,your response tomorrow will let me know how serious you are,and my friend I promise you if you truly seek support,advice,encouragement, and someone to talk to who understands what your going through, I promise I will always be here to listen,support,and advise.Your so young learn from my mistakes and Take your life back,do yourself a favor and learn to hate addiction and the substances that cause it. STAY STRONG AND GOD BLESS
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  11. Lostinvoid

    Lostinvoid Member

    Wow that is an insane story. Nobody has replied to my thread on the "share your story" page. I feel like for you to understand where I'm coming from you would have to read that. I'm diagnosed skitsofrenic and I feel that post describes pretty well what I've been going thru. Its called "last call, addicted to meth" please read it and give me advice. I wrote it earlier when I was having the strongest urge to end it all. You seem very knowledgeable and have been there done that I'm sure. I'd love to hear what you think of my story. It goes into very deep detail.
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  12. True concern

    True concern Community Champion

    I will read it and respond
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  13. Dominica

    Dominica Author, Writer, Recovery Advocate Community Listener

    @Lostinvoid I think @True concern can relate very well to what you're feeling and where you're at.... and let him assure you that you addressing this NOW, at a young age, will save you and your loved ones a lot of pain.... so yes, stick around here... share however often you want. and please come up with some sort of "recovery plan" for you at home. each person's road to recovery will look a bit different. find a path that resonates with YOU.... try one, two, three, or a combination of things. the things that are working, stick with. the things that aren't, scratch.... you are unique. your path will be unique.

    and just know that we're rooting for you.
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  14. True concern

    True concern Community Champion


    Ohh just so you know as I read your other post I almost lost my sh*t,it is a very emotional story but after I read it I replied,then went back to sleep(I'm recovering from surgery)anyways I felt everything you felt at some point,and honestly not long ago but there is hope for you,you dug deep deep within yourself and a person only does that when they truly want a better life.YOU CAN BE SOBER PLEASE CONTINUE TO SHARE
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  15. Liola

    Liola Senior Contributor

    how are you feeling True Concern?
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  16. True concern

    True concern Community Champion

    @Liola Thank You for asking, I am doing better,considering I'm 9 day's out of surgery and I am approaching 2 month's sober again other than the meds from my doctor but now that my surgery is over I had my doctor cut the dose in half to limit the withdrawal from the 8 month's of pain meds they had me on so as soon as Dec 1st comes around I should be 100%off all meds and back at the gym focused completely on my health and recovery in every sense of the word.I apologize to the new people posting, I want to be offering advice and support like I normally do everyday but I'm trying to not overwhelm myself right now after some said "There is such a thing as to much empathy you have to have some for yourself as well"and I think I understand that, I think I have to spend a little more time on me but I will be back on a regular basis very soon I just want to be in the right place mentally and emotionally. I hope you have a wonderful weekend
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  17. Liola

    Liola Senior Contributor

    True Concern,
    I disagree...you have so much to offer and help people with your experience. I think the more you give the better it is for you because it reinforces it in yourself plus you are giving it to someone who needs it...that is spending time on you. If you enjoy it then do it...in the rooms of NA they say you can't keep it unless you give it away.
    What pain meds are you on and how much? Are you in control of the bottle? Is there anyone to hold them for you?
    For me, the pill bottle talked to me from wherever it was. I had to have my husband keep them in a lock box and that really didn't last too long once I was wanting and needing them more than directed because I didn't feel the effect physically or the desired effect...that was when i considered it a relapse.
    Be very careful because you like me were on them for the pain since our surgeries were further out and we had to wait.
    Trust me...it is a bad detox and I thought that making a schedule with the doctors of weening off over a decent period of time was doable. It was very very hard. I thought I could and wouldn't feel withdrawal. I still feel it months later from the pain meds and all old aches and pains came back. I hope they won't for you. The key is (and I didn't think I needed it since I know the gym and exercises) pysical rehab. I'm so sorry I didn't do it. I did it my way. My way doesn't work in any area! Just FYI to pass my experience and hopes for you on.
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  18. True concern

    True concern Community Champion


    I didn't mean so much I was taking time off the site,though after I read read it I guess it kinda reads that way,I meant I have to spend more time on recovering from surgery, it's only been 9 day's ago and I have to be on crutches for 3-5 week's and I'm not a little guy so at 235lbs I'm wearing myself out carrying myself on 1 leg,that is where I need more recovery time.Im down to 5mg Norco 3 time's a day for 7 days and depending on my pain I may take less,but not more.The whole reason I got knee surgery was to get back to running, running helped me stay sober,so now the surgery is done and I will NOT FORGET why I had that surgery.........To Better My Chances At A Happy Healthy Drug Free Life
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  19. Dominica

    Dominica Author, Writer, Recovery Advocate Community Listener

    @Liola thank you for sharing such good insight and advice!!

    @True concern

    Perhaps you are meaning you're seeking a balance when it comes to time on the Forum. I could only hope that people could would suffer from too much empathy LOL. The world could use a whole lot more of it. Definitely take care of you and your recovery. I definitely think reaching out and supporting others on the forum and off the Forum can be therapeutic. But of course in balance. Again, listen to your body and listen to your soul. I know when I take time to pay attention to what my spirit is saying or God or whatever you want to call your higher power, life is more in balance. And my emotions are more in balance. And, I'm simply more giving....

    I'm believing and praying that your taper will go beautifully.
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  20. deanokat

    deanokat DrugAbuse.com Community Organizer Community Listener

    @True concern... Do whatever you have to do for yourself, always. I love your presence here on the forum, so I hope you will always be with us. But everyone needs a break once in a while, right? So if you need to take a break, do it. Or if you feel a need to cut down on your posts, that's fine, too. Whatever feels right for you. I think @Dominica hit the nail on the head when she used the word "balance." Balance is always best!

    Love ya, Arthur! Happy Friday!!! :cool:
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