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Sexual Assault, A Topic Worth Discussing

Discussion in 'Alcohol' started by SClarke, Oct 11, 2018.

  1. SClarke

    SClarke Member

    Consent is often the word that comes to mind when thinking of sexual assault. If someone is under the influence of drugs or alcohol, does that make it okay? If someone does not say no, does that mean yes?

    Consent is saying yes and understanding the consequences of what you are doing. To have sex with someone without their consent, regardless of their level of intoxication, is sexual assault and rape, and is unacceptable and unforgivable.

    Alcohol, a common and legal substance, is the number one “date rape” drug, and plays a role in at least half of all sexual assaults. Being under the influence doesn’t give somebody the right to touch someone in any way without consent.

    Yet, it still happens every single day.

    It’s no secret that alcohol can alter judgment, but it’s not an excuse for reckless and criminal behavior. Sadly, a lot of individuals remain uninformed on this. Indeed, forty-eight percent of men, aged 18 to 25, believe that if a woman is too drunk to consent, then it is not considered rape.

    Rape should not be defined by what someone is wearing, how they look, or if they are under the influence of drugs. Rape is rape and believing that there are certain circumstances that dismiss it is wrong.

    If you are the victim of sexual assault and rape, you can contact a hotline for support at 800-656-HOPE (4673).
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  2. deanokat

    deanokat Community Organizer Community Listener

    Thanks so much for posting this, @SClarke. It's such an important subject and message. Alcohol is, in my opinion, the world's most dangerous drug. In more ways than one.

    Thanks again!
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  3. Dominica

    Dominica Recovery Advocate @ Moving Beyond Codependency Community Listener

    @SClarke this hits very close to home... many victims remain silent and it haunts them.... if you've been sexually assaulted (drinking or sober), please reach out for help... there are qualified therapists that can help, and justice for offenders.
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  4. Joshstillclean

    Joshstillclean Stupidity Exists - Fact.

    I just saw this.
    I would like to reply, AND speak out.
    When I was 25 I was at my worst on heroin and god knows what else...
    I was attacked drugged, I fought, I think I might have killed someone but I'm not sure and the police decided to not dig any further into it...

    Because I really might have done it but what happened to me they say doesn't matter. Its public record. If you want to look it up and see all about the trial and see the 17 hours worth of interrogations and interviews PM me.
    I was drugged after I could not fight anymore like I said. I ended up in a basement, handcuffed to a boiler pipe and I woke up to being raped. By a man who sold me to another man who went next for a little piece of crack.
    Well after that(i spent almost 3 days in this basement) I was told to drink something. I wouldn't. I was beaten and still wouldn't. I was withdrawing from heroin bad and was told if I drank it I could have a shot.
    I drank it. What ever it was it gave me an extremely pain full erection.
    And then a woman, yes, a female, as in someone with a vagina I saw hand this man money and I was rolled over and she put a condom on me and SHE raped ME. I was in no way excited.
    But I had an erection.
    I won't get into anymore details but FYI
    it happens to men too. I don't know why so many men will not come forward. I was not a wuss. In fact I might have a death on my hands because I fought so hard. And I escaped because even after all of that (by the grace of God) i was able to still fight.

    I read a lot about rape naturally and I get pissed when I read something (not talking about this thread) that a woman wrote. Who wrote it as if women do not have these inate carnal desires and do evil things to pleasure themselves. They do. They are insidious to. Many men just won't be believed.
    But I'm here to tell you you can get an erection that you didn't want, and a woman can and will take advantage of it if she so desires.
    God was looking out for me. There were two bodies burried under that building.
    By the way that building can be seen in the death on I 95 documentary.
  5. Joshstillclean

    Joshstillclean Stupidity Exists - Fact.

    Also I have had my two year HIV screen. I miraculously didn't catch anything.
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  6. True concern

    True concern Moderator

    Wow @Joshstillclean The more I learn of your experience the worse I feel,no I've never and could never do anything like that to anyone for any reason but my heart goes out to you and all other victims of rape and molestation, I as you know was a victim of not rape but the other and I remember some details but not all,I was very young.I am so so sorry for the pain you endured.God be with us all
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  7. Joshstillclean

    Joshstillclean Stupidity Exists - Fact.

    I never intend on anything I say to make anyone feel bad. And I feel for you I really do. Different circumstances same disgusting criminal act. Look, you have done nothing to me except be my friend and
    help me when I needed probably more than any other point in my don't go feeling all bad.
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  8. deanokat

    deanokat Community Organizer Community Listener

    Thanks for sharing, @Joshstillclean. I'm so glad you're in a better place now.
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