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Discussion in 'Other Substances' started by jdroc, Nov 4, 2014.
DMT is not a "smart drug." The term "smart drug" is just an attention-grabbing word for nootropics (because "smart drug" sounds much more appealing than "nootropic").
As far as DMT's purpose, we're still not certain. Most of the things that people pass off as facts about endogenous DMT are nothing more than conjecture.
Considering how illegal N,N-DMT, 5-MeO-DMT, and every other form of DMT is, I find it hard to believe that websites are offering free samples of it.
As far as harm goes, vaporizing DMT isn't going to physically harm you. The reason people die during ayahuasca ceremonies is because they don't fast. Ayahuasca is a mixture of DMT and a monoamine oxidase inhibitor (MAOI). If you ate DMT without an MAOI, the monoamine oxidases (MAO's) in your stomach would break down the DMT before your body could absorb it. When you take an MAOI, it inhibits the MAO's, allowing the DMT to be absorbed through your digestive system. MAOI's can react negatively with a lot of different foods and medicines, which is why fasting is recommended.
The difference between vaporizing DMT and drinking ayahuasca is that DMT shoots you through the experience throughout the course of ~15 minutes. Ayahuasca gently lifts you up (after the purge, of course) and carries you through a DMT trip, then gently lowers you back down to baseline. It's a lot harder to comprehend a vaporized DMT trip because of how fast it is.
Thanks, well the special I saw on TV basically was saying that the witch doctors didn't know what they were doing all the time, and mixed the two things wrong and it caused people to have a really bad trip. I was just interested in it from spiritual standpoint. I don't wish to trip on anything. Marijuana was more than enough when I used it. I'm super sensitive to drugs, doesn't take a lot for me.
When you're tripping on a psychedelic drug, there is always the chance that you'll have a bad trip. That's just one of the risks of tripping, even if you do measure out your doses correctly.
I can imagine how easy it would be to have a bad trip with ayahuasca if you do it in South America. Psychedelics are meant to be done in a familiar, comfortable place with familiar people. Tripping in an unknown environment with a bunch of people that you don't know and shamans making weird noises and chants would freak me out if I were tripping.
Well I guess what I was asking about ayahuasca originally is, does it have a capacity to that into the subconsciousness of the user. Then, will that actually help the user discover key things about themselves. I don't believe all drugs are bad.....in fact when I used MJ it did make me acutely aware of certain things that freaked me out enough to not want to try anything else. But now I'm older and can appreciate that those experiences really did open my mind. Hell, I would even argue that sometimes my senses were heightened but who knows for sure.
That's all. I mean I get the sense of the word trip. It takes you somewhere, just wanted to know if an ayahuasca trip was worth leaving for. That's all
I must have missed where you asked that question. I can't speak for ayahuasca as I haven't tried it, but I have vaporized N,N-DMT. It was an incredible experience, but I can't say that I learned anything from it.
New drugs are always a risk because we don't know what side effects they will have. I mean, certainly they aren't more dangerous that the classic drugs.
I have actually seennthem , some come in form of cookies, but they do exist, they enhance your brain activity, some pregnant women take it , so that it can start working on the kid, but from what I saw,someone close to me did that, when the kid ws born he was too hyper, I almost thought he had ADD,but that was not the case,to add on that the boy was extremly strong, but when he turned 4 years old, he has gone down no longer hyper, he is very dull, I think those are some of the side effects of those smart drugs
Wow, I find hard to believe that some women take those sort of drugs, that doesn't seem something responsible at all, didn't she considered the effect on the kid?
The part about the kid being hyper and strong sounds like a whole lot of conjecture. I've never heard of nootropic cookies. Do you happen to know what nootropics were in the cookies that pregnant women take?
If you think about it, how can anything you introduce into your body that is not completely natural be 100% safe? It makes me think of all the side effects athletes get from performance-enhancing drugs. I don't believe we can alter ourselves mentally beyond the boundaries of what we were born with anyway, so I wouldn't try them even if I felt they were safe.
This is called the appeal to nature fallacy. Just because something is natural doesn't mean that it's inherently good and just because something's unnatural doesn't mean that it's inherently bad. I can't think of anything that's 100% safe.
So true, it's right that our body is being fed correctly and that many things are unbalanced, but some sort of drugs are certainly not the best way to correct that situation.
Hmm, interesting someone would use it in that context.
Depends.........on could you explain people that are involved in head injuries, only later to have some super ability like play mozart without any piano training, just the head injury. Science can't explain everything, and I don't believe we have to settle for what we're born with. Natural or unnatural people use stuff to enhance brain activity. Always have and always will. Poets used something way back when, indians, whoever you can think of, used something.
Thanks for sharing.
I agree, some things are good. I will be the first in line to try stem cells if need be.
From what I understand this has always been rampant in universities, especially in medicine or any other heavy course where the students feel pressured to perform and pass so they take some pills to increase their attention or to stay awake. Apart from that there are psychedelics that might help with anxiety and personal awareness and discovery. I think these practices are okay as long as they are not abused.
Never heard of them, but I know a few people that could really use one of those. Do they bave any negative side effects? If so, are they extremely harmful? I would totally try one out, just for the sake of it. Doesn't sound too letal to be honest.