@liliann we are definitely pulling for you!! you can always be truthful here... if it's one thing i think we can all agree on is that quitting something you're addicted to isn't easy.... there are many factors involved...and the reality is that sometimes relapse happens. sometimes multiple attempts at rehab are needed... but we never give up. not on each other and not on ourselves. we are with you all the way @liliann and with you too @deanokat .... may your son find the best rehab for him and make an incredible shift toward full long-term recovery.