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Discussion in 'Prescription Drugs' started by Ozzy, Mar 30, 2018.

  1. Ozzy

    Ozzy Member

    Subutex nightmare! I speak from experience. Subutex seems to be immunosuppressive and genetic altering. After 2years on this garbage im having some REALLY strange symptoms,to many to explain. Nobody REALLY knows the long term affects of this better than the user as there's never been any long term studies done by BIG PHARMA on long term maintenance and it's REALLY ridiculous when I hear people,only informed by their "Physicians"about how "clean"they are since they've started sub "therapy". Talk about denial or ignorance. It's amazing what some people will believe in order to calm their own drug addicted consciousnesses. People. Bupanepherone is one of the most life altering substances on the market and one of the most lied about. Don't believe me? Give it a try. Curiosity killed the cat. No amount of research is better than years of experience. I'm on Subs and I'd consider myself FAR,FAR from "CLEAN". Those in denial,wake up and quit fooling yourselves and spreading mis-information. It NEVER gets better further down the rabbit hole.
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  2. Dominica

    Dominica Recovery Advocate @ Moving Beyond Codependency Community Listener

    @Ozzy thanks for your input. Sorry you are struggling on this... I don't know much about subs and have heard all sorts of stories. Some good, some not-so-good.

    You're still on it? Are you getting off? Would like to know your experience so I can learn more about this.

  3. Ozzy

    Ozzy Member

    Yes,I'm still on it with no light at the end of the tunnel...Bupanepherone is an awesome short term tool for opiate withdrawal as originally intended but has no business as a long term maintenance solution and has caused the worst side affects than anything else,prescribed OR ellicit,that I've ever experienced and I've had PLENTY of that. I'd like to get off of this killer but it seems most detox facilities don't offer the long term care it takes in order to detox as it can take months...very similar to Methadone. Any suggestions would be much appreciated and a solution would be even better. If you'd ever like to talk about in person, i'm in Ozzy,Daytona Beach,FL. I could sure use an expert opinion as to where to even start getting the help I so much need. This drug is literally killing me. Feel free to call or reply back and have a better day than I'm having. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy if I had any enemies but I don't. The only worst enemy I have has a name and it's BUPRENORPHINE...much love and light to ya. It SUX living in the dark.
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  4. Dominica

    Dominica Recovery Advocate @ Moving Beyond Codependency Community Listener

    @Ozzy i don't have much to offer, as i just don't have experience with it. maybe find yourself a doctor who will work with you in detoxing...even if it takes months and months... tell him/her you want and need the support. you could also attend some meetings to help with the mental aspect of detoxing... might help.

    i'm sorry you're struggling so much with this. sending love and light back your way!
  5. Ozzy

    Ozzy Member

    Thank you. May much love and light bless your life. Mines getting short. I've seen the jails and institutions...all that's left is death but I've come to terms with that part. After all,for ALL of us each day is one step closer to that...for some of us sooner than others. I've been through hell so there's no way but UP. I've been through this SO many times with so many different drugs that I won't have the strength to continue on for much longer. May God bless your life.
  6. Dominica

    Dominica Recovery Advocate @ Moving Beyond Codependency Community Listener

    @Ozzy i do hope you can connect with a doctor who can help you detox and get free. and thank you for the blessing!
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  7. deanokat

    deanokat Community Organizer Community Listener

    See an addiction specialist, @Ozzy. They should be able to help you wean off of the Subutex.
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  8. True concern

    True concern Moderator

    Fu×k your straight to the point so i will be too.i was at one point content with death as you said it was inevitable but let me tell you the lie about subox.It's exactly that the pill is a bullshit mask,i mean think about it a person like myself could slam almost 2 grams of heroin a day,do i feel like super man or some miracle junkie fu×k no but here take this sub and WTF withdrawl limited or completely masked with no sickness.....bullshit.Now im no idiot and man i nearly died i really did but the reality i can give you without a science lab.Sub is a mask,what does a mask do it covers up something but doesn't remove it,think about it.So what's happening is after 2 year's all those narcotics have been stored in your body never actually leaving your system but just being inactive,however they are there and continue to do damage without supplying the high so its commonly accepted as a miracle pill and i have experience with bullshit miracle pills,you can have a long healthy happy life but you absolutely have no choice but to go through true detox not masked bullshit.I don't recommend my method of detox because it almost killed me and i was told by multiple professionals it infact would but by the grace of God i survived because I truly believed only he tells me when it my time he is the true professional,however cold turkey on that dose could absolutely kill you so i recommend atleast a 2 week inpatient detox atleast probably more like a month but no less than 2 week's God Bless you and i have personally become addicted to trying to help people but atleast this addiction i now have is one with a true concern(no pune intended)i want people to find the greatness i hear in their stories,i want you to see you have alot to offer and i post my story alot because it's intense so again im going to paste it her find inspiration within my struggle.God bless youand take care.This is my story of addiction.I was born in the early 80's at the age of six year's old i was diagnosed with that time there was a new F.D.A.approved drug by the name of Ritalin.At first it seemed to be a miracle pill,I was on this pill until the age of 18 at that time i decided i was no longer going to take this pill and it began just under a year passed and someone said "Have you ever tried crystal"which i had not at that time but i tried it and instantly noticed that it was 100% the same effect i got from Ritalin only difference was it lasted longer,or seemed to but honestly it was probably the quantity i was doing was greater than that of Ritalin i struggled with meth on and off for roughly 20 year's,not only meth but i was as well consuming 750ml of Jack Daniel's a day plus a 12 pack of beer.For those who don't know when you mix the two you don't appear to get drunk which is very deadly because infact you do get drunk however you don't realise it until it's too late meaning alcohol poisoning.I experienced this a few times and actually died on a hospital bed due to this fact,it took 3 hits with a defibrillator to restart my heart and i was told the only reason I was hit 3 times was because i was only 19 year's old,but usually after the second time if your heart doesn't restart you are then pronounced dead,but a nurse pleaded with the try one more time and he did and my heart started back up.I didn't know at the time but that nurse was actually the mother of the lead singer of Sublime who just lost her son to a heroin overdose.I am forever grateful for that nurse without her plea i would be another statistic.Unfortunately I didn't quite using drug's at that time i just traded substances.I started abusing pain pills heavily and increased that addiction to catastrophic proportions,it got so bad i started injecting heroin which i quickly traded for oxycontin because it was much stronger than heroin.I abused fentanyl as well but nothing compared to the oxycontin.At my worst i was injecting 240-320mg's of oxycontin a day,feeling i wouldn't survive another month i decided to seek help.I'm poor and i come from poor parent's so my options were limited,i ended up at a methadone clinic for help slowly decreasing my extremely high tolerance.At the clinic i had an interview with a drug addiction counselor and an addiction physician,i was hoping for good news but what i heard shock me to my core.I was told by both the same thing,"Sir we are sorry to tell you but your addiction and tolerance is beyond the point of return,whether you quit or continue either way you cannot survive you have if your lucky a month to live"My heart sank and i decided at that moment if i was going to die i would die trying.I went home and prayed and then i called my wife into the room to tell her the news.At that moment i apologized to her told her how much she meant to me and made her promise if i didn't make it she would move on re marry and live a happy life and she noded yes.After that i quite cold turkey and suffered pain and sickness i cannot describe,for 27 straight day's i did not leave the bedroom,i did not eat,i did not sleep,i hallucinated,i screamed in intense unimaginable pain,i lost over 50 pound's in that time frame and had to be rushed to the hospital 3 time's where they would rehydrate me and try to give me pain shots to stall the detox which i refused.On day 28 I took my first steps after i quite and by the grace of God i survived and this May im married 18 year's to my beautiful wife and guardian angel.This is the first time I've shared my story of addiction and i did it for one reason alone,i want everyone to know i understand what you are going through and no matter how bad it gets there is hope.I'm here for each and everyone of you,if you ever need someone to talk to,if you ever feel no one understands im all ears and i do understand.Stay Strong We're rooting for you
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