Subutex nightmare! I speak from experience. Subutex seems to be immunosuppressive and genetic altering. After 2years on this garbage im having some REALLY strange symptoms,to many to explain. Nobody REALLY knows the long term affects of this better than the user as there's never been any long term studies done by BIG PHARMA on long term maintenance and it's REALLY ridiculous when I hear people,only informed by their "Physicians"about how "clean"they are since they've started sub "therapy". Talk about denial or ignorance. It's amazing what some people will believe in order to calm their own drug addicted consciousnesses. People. Bupanepherone is one of the most life altering substances on the market and one of the most lied about. Don't believe me? Give it a try. Curiosity killed the cat. No amount of research is better than years of experience. I'm on Subs and I'd consider myself FAR,FAR from "CLEAN". Those in denial,wake up and quit fooling yourselves and spreading mis-information. It NEVER gets better further down the rabbit hole.